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Beginner

Posted: April 10th, 2016, 10:03 pm
by zimzallabim
Hi there
My first two pruning shaping attempts.

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Cryptomeria before
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Cryptomeria after
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Juniper before
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Juniper after


Any feedback welcome :)

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 11th, 2016, 7:59 am
by Daluke
Nice material. Try and bring the foliage pads closer to the trunk. It makes the tree look fuller.

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 11th, 2016, 9:59 pm
by zimzallabim
Cheers,

The branches are.tiny so I just pushed them all on a bit and it dies look better :)

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Re: Beginner

Posted: April 11th, 2016, 11:24 pm
by kcpoole
More movement in the branches and trunk to get the foliage in much closer

Ken

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 12th, 2016, 5:15 pm
by zimzallabim
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I pushed the branches fair bit closer to trunk.

I'm I right in assuming going into colder months the wire will be able to stay on longer? I'll be watching it anyway.

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Re: Beginner

Posted: April 12th, 2016, 7:34 pm
by Daluke
It all depends on how vigorous it grows. Generally, now is the best time to have it on to minimise wastage and maximise wire training time.

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 8:37 am
by Lane
Get some thicker wire on the trunk and put more bends in it, bring the entire tree closer to the ground.

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 10:36 am
by Mojo Moyogi
Daluke wrote:Nice material. Try and bring the foliage pads closer to the trunk. It makes the tree look fuller.
Hi zimzallabim,
Welcome to the forum :D

What the previous posters were getting at is next time you style a piece of raw material, don't remove so much foliage in close. Bending the branches will remedy your initial styling, but typically if you leave the foliage there (not all of it - you will get the balance right in time with practice), you have more options and get a better result. Don't worry, everyone strips foliage away like you have done, it's a common newbie thing, just don't keep doing it for umm.... 2 years like I did :palm:

Ask questions, get advice, adjust, make mistakes, ruin trees, adjust, ruin less trees and so on, that is the path to bonsai success.

Enjoy the ride.

Cheers,
Mojo

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Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 11:58 am
by Matt S
Mojo Moyogi wrote:Ask questions, get advice, adjust, make mistakes, ruin trees, adjust, ruin less trees and so on, that is the path to bonsai success.
"Ruin less trees" might become my new mantra.

Welcome Zimzallabim! Lots of excellent advice here. Have fun.

Matt.

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 12:08 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
From experience, I don't recommend growing a tree well for a decade and then ruining it - that will scar you :cry:

Cheers,
Mojo

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 7:42 pm
by zimzallabim
Thanks for all the advise guys :)

To he honest there was sfa inner foliage anyway

Should I get the trunk lower? I figured I don't mind the proportions of it atm and would just let it grow and thicken over the next few years keeping it at the same over all dimensions?

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Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 7:46 pm
by zimzallabim
Mojo Moyogi wrote:
Daluke wrote:Nice material. Try and bring the foliage pads closer to the trunk. It makes the tree look fuller.
Hi zimzallabim,
Welcome to the forum :D

What the previous posters were getting at is next time you style a piece of raw material, don't remove so much foliage in close. Bending the branches will remedy your initial styling, but typically if you leave the foliage there (not all of it - you will get the balance right in time with practice), you have more options and get a better result. Don't worry, everyone strips foliage away like you have done, it's a common newbie thing, just don't keep doing it for umm.... 2 years like I did :palm:

Ask questions, get advice, adjust, make mistakes, ruin trees, adjust, ruin less trees and so on, that is the path to bonsai success.

Enjoy the ride.

Cheers,
Mojo

edit: and please enter your location in your profile, it helps everyone on the forum in helping you
Thanks alot Mojo :)

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Re: Beginner

Posted: April 13th, 2016, 10:20 pm
by zimzallabim
I can't put my location in. I'm.ising tapatalk and can't log in on the Web.

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Re: Beginner

Posted: April 14th, 2016, 10:25 am
by kcpoole
zimzallabim wrote:I can't put my location in. I'm.ising tapatalk and can't log in on the Web.

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Why?
just use the browser on your device works

Ken

Re: Beginner

Posted: April 14th, 2016, 2:13 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
Hey Zim, for the Juniper, you could go for a Windswept style, it would probably work ok without foliage in close.

Cheers,
Mojo