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Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 14th, 2016, 2:35 pm
by ness
The sun was out, so i decided to take some photos of an elm i have in the works.
Suggestions and critique welcome :tu:
Enjoy

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 14th, 2016, 6:18 pm
by Pat K
I like Corkybark Chinese Elms, I grow lots myself from root cuttings, so I was interested in having a look at these. HOWEVER, as I don't have a landline and depend on Hotspot from my phone to get web connection, I find that with photos of nearly 1MHz, it was just too much to download.....is it only me that has trouble downloading ?.....do I need to upgrade my laptop (which is not that old) ?.....

When I post pics of pots I resize to 700 (pixels?) in width and less than 100KHz (usually <50KHz) and get sharp results. Why am I seeing more and more of these pics of 800KHz and up?....please guys, have pity....... :(

pk

...of course I should have said KB, rather than KHz.....just showing my age :?

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 14th, 2016, 7:01 pm
by Kevin
Hello Ness,

Nice elm, the new foliage is beautiful.

Pat,

Just an observation from my perspective - when you are old, everything is not that old.

My ASUS laptop is 2 years old and i have no problems with 73MB photos which is what my camera records in RAW. However, in tech terms it's almost up for replacement, as it's already dated. But it works well and i cannot afford a replacement.

Ken's the PC guru.

Kevin

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 14th, 2016, 8:58 pm
by shibui
Looks like a nice lower trunk but way too tall for my liking and I think all the branches have grown out a bit long.
I would consider cutting the main trunk off above either th 3rd or 4th? (larger) branches. Possibly even a bit lower.

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 1:14 am
by ness
Thanks shibui, I plan on cutting back to the 5th branch from the bottom (It's the thick one jutting out to the left)
Air layer the top portion.
I'm currently thickening up the main branches, so they are quite leggy (as is the whole tree).
Seriously considering doing most of that work this season....

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 9:26 am
by melbrackstone
HOWEVER, as I don't have a landline and depend on Hotspot from my phone to get web connection, I find that with photos of nearly 1MHz, it was just too much to download.....is it only me that has trouble downloading ?.
Even with a landline and a desktop my connection can suffer downloading big files, I feel your pain, Pat.

Agree that images on a forum need to be resized down to 800px on the longest side, and preferably less than 100kb.

Nice corky ness!

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 12:02 pm
by Pat K
Just had another go.... while from the 'thumb-nail' I like your tree Ness, I had to give up on the enlarged pic.

Thanks for your sympathy Mel... and Kevin, I do need a new PC but I think I'll stick to playing in mud and leave the technical stuff to the techies.

pk :)

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 12:17 pm
by Rory
Hi Pat...

I doubt the problem is with your PC.

Usually if you are having issues with how long it takes to open a picture, it is usually a problem with the internet connection speed or modem.

The simple way to test is if you are able to open small pics fine, but it 'times out' (takes forever and stops) when trying to load larger pictures or big websites it is a sure sign of the problem being your internet connection speed.

When you use your phone as the hotspot, do you need to plug a cable from the phone to your laptop?
If the answer is no and your laptop uses wifi, then you can take only your laptop and not your phone, to a café that offers free wifi internet access (usually Mcdonalds have this), and you will probably find the same website loads the picture a lot faster than at your home. This will confirm the problem is simply your internet speed from your phone is too slow for what you want and there is nothing wrong with your pc.

p.s. the laptop will probably auto detect the wifi at mcdonalds or whatever café you go to. Sometimes they might give you a password you need to put in if it asks for the wifi password to connect to.
:beer:

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 12:25 pm
by Matt S
Hi Ness,

You've done a good job thickening the lower branches and I think this season you can start the process of taper and ramification, as well as choosing a new leader and developing the apex (as shibui stated). That will bring everything closer to the trunk for a more compact image.

Well done. Have you chosen a front?

Matt.

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 4:28 pm
by ness
Hey Matt, Yeah I'm leaning towards the shaded side (darker photo).
The tree moves better in that direction I feel. I'm slowly going to move the main lower branches in and ramify them.
Currently, they are leggy, not for too long i hope.

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 5:22 pm
by Grant Bowie
I like the elm very much.

I would remove a couple of the uppermost heaviest roots and turn them into root cuttings. This would show off better the curve in the lower trunk that is currently partially hidden by these roots.

Cut back the tree hard and turn it into a smaller tree from the new growth which will then emphasise the thickness of the trunk and the newly acquired lower curve as well.

Grant

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 7:46 pm
by shibui
assuming your 4th branch (left as shown in 2nd picture?) That branch appears to be tied down. What is the point of lowering the future apex? Surely it needs to be brought upward if it is to be the apex?

The other issue is the lower branches. Almost bar branching and one of them on the inside of the bend from the pictures. Jut looks a little contrived :imo: Any thoughts on removing the one on the inside that starts out upward but then bends down?

Re: Chinese corky bark elem

Posted: September 17th, 2016, 9:33 am
by kcpoole
Pat K wrote: When I post pics of pots I resize to 700 (pixels?) in width and less than 100KHz (usually <50KHz) and get sharp results. Why am I seeing more and more of these pics of 800KHz and up?....please guys, have pity....... :(

pk
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HI Pat
2 years for a laptop is new to me too :-) my currnetl laptop is 4 years old, and just recently replaced my previous one which was about 8 years old ( use Linux so that operation system does not suck the life outta it :-) :lol: :lol: )

I Resize all my images to 800x600 pixels which gives a file size suitable to low bandwidth connection users ( ie me!!!!) around 250Kb is what they end up at. It is easy to do and makes online life much nicer for everyone.

@ ness I like the trunk, but the branch ont he inside looks funny to me!, the way it heads up and then bends down more like an old fig. it is out of charachter with the rest of the treee and being ont he inside, could be removed IMHO

Ken