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Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 28th, 2017, 11:03 am
by delisea
Ume are amazing.
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...and Kirky's fantastic example here:
viewtopic.php?f=132&t=24273

But can anybody tell me why other Prunus sp. like the good old Satuma plum are not as revered as bonsai? Are other Prunus Sp. missing some characteristic, making them less desirable as bonsai?
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Cheers,
Symon

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 28th, 2017, 2:43 pm
by treeman
It's all about the flowers Simon. Ume's flowers are superior in that they are more colourful - even the white ones have a little colour in the bracts. They seem to have a ''glow'' that other prunus don't have. The petals are more rounded so the flower looks round. They flower earlier in the season so they attract attention to themselves before all the froth of spring, and most of all they are beautifully scented. Perhaps they are even longer lived (?) which would give then even more venerability than others. Having said that, most other Prunus are worth growing as bonsai and are!

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 28th, 2017, 4:02 pm
by KIRKY
I can vouch for the scent they are wonderful to have inside.
I also have many Plums. The blossoms are so short lived on all Prunus but they are all still worth growing :imo:
Cheers
Kirky

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 29th, 2017, 9:39 am
by delisea
Thanks for the replies, Mike and Kirky. One thing I have noticed is the plums have a longer flower/fruit stem than apricots. The advantage of plums for me is a can dig them up from my back yard!

Cheers,
Symon

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 29th, 2017, 10:58 am
by Robsterios
Whilst discussing plums...
I got hold of a fairly good prunus elvins off eBay (bare rooted) last year..not display worthy or anthing but will be ok in a few years...what surprised me this last season was that I was eating cherry plums off it..!!
Elvins is absolutely covered in blossom and a thing to behold in Spring...

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 30th, 2017, 3:00 pm
by delisea
Prunus elvins sounds great post a picture when it flowers.

Cheers,
Symon

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 30th, 2017, 7:31 pm
by KIRKY
Your lucky to get Plums between the possums, rats and birds my Elvins don't stand a chance. :evil: had my eye on a Plum last year needed another week it was gone the next day :shake:
Elvins are great for blossoms they're not like some Plum trees where you have to wait years for them to flower. :tu:
And the blossoms are stacked on top of each other.
Cheers
Kirky

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: June 30th, 2017, 7:57 pm
by shibui
Not bonsai but this link is a thread with pictures of P. 'Elvins' in flower as a garden plant.
[url][/viewtopic.php?f=134&t=12974&hilit=+elvinsurl]

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: July 1st, 2017, 10:41 am
by Ray M
shibui wrote:Not bonsai but this link is a thread with pictures of P. 'Elvins' in flower as a garden plant.
[/https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/forum/vie ...
Regards Ray

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: July 1st, 2017, 4:57 pm
by Ray M
Ray M wrote:
shibui wrote:Not bonsai but this link is a thread with pictures of P. 'Elvins' in flower as a garden plant.
[/https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/forum/vie ...

Regards Ray

Re: Ume Vs Satsuma

Posted: July 1st, 2017, 5:29 pm
by shibui
Thanks for fixing that Ray. I did not stop to check that it was correct after I posted :oops: