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[WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 6th, 2017, 10:05 pm
by robc
Hi All,
Is anyone selling, or know anyone who is selling standard JPB or JBP cultivars within driving distance from Canberra? (or are also willing to post to Canberra?)
My aim is to field grow a handful of them so ideally i'd like to get my hands on young-ish (i.e cheaper

) ungrafted trees.
also happy to look at other pine species if the price is right
thanks,
Rob
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 7th, 2017, 5:46 pm
by shibui
I have small JBP in 11 cm plastic pots. Smaller ones start at $15 and upward depending on size and age. Post to Canberra is no problem - around $15 for one or 2 or I could bring them up to the Canberra Bonsai show in spring.
You will be lucky to get cultivars that are not grafted. Varieties can't be grown from seed and cuttings are difficult so unless someone is layering JBP cultivars they'll be hard to find.
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 11th, 2017, 1:10 pm
by robc
Thanks Shibui,
i might make the trip to you on a weekend before the CBS show if you're open to the public on weekends. otherwise i might take up your offer for delivery on the weekend of the CBS show.
if i'm driving down i might aswell pick up some a few of all the classic bonsai species if you have them.
cheers,
Rob
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 11th, 2017, 8:30 pm
by shibui
Shibui bonsai is not a retail nursery.
I can manage occasional visitors but only with prior consultation to make sure we will be available at that day/time so please give me plenty of warning before planning a trip.
I'm happy to hold specific trees and bring them up with no obligation on your part but if you do want to make the trip I'm sure you'll find plenty of interest including plenty that is never advertised.
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 12th, 2017, 12:14 pm
by treeman
I will have a couple of cultivars at next year's convention. They will be one year grafts. One is a seedling I call ''shinfuku'' (a seedling of kotobuki with very short stiff needles and superb material for small trees) and the other is - I believe - a Black/Red hybrid. It has extremely dark straight needles of very good waxy texture. Growth is somewhat upright and, bark is excellent and the needles are the darkest green I have ever observed. Buds are those of the red pine and needles are all black pine. It was a seedling from a batch of back pines. These will also be 1 year grafts and both very limited.
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 12th, 2017, 12:45 pm
by Matthew
treeman wrote:I will have a couple of cultivars at next year's convention. They will be one year grafts. One is a seedling I call ''shinfuku'' (a seedling of kotobuki with very short stiff needles and superb material for small trees) and the other is - I believe - a Black/Red hybrid. It has extremely dark straight needles of very good waxy texture. Growth is somewhat upright and, bark is excellent and the needles are the darkest green I have ever observed. Buds are those of the red pine and needles are all black pine. It was a seedling from a batch of back pines. These will also be 1 year grafts and both very limited.
Mike
these cultivars sound interesting. Were they just a stroke of luck with these or did you get cross pollination to occur on purpose ?
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 12th, 2017, 2:07 pm
by treeman
Matthew wrote:treeman wrote:I will have a couple of cultivars at next year's convention. They will be one year grafts. One is a seedling I call ''shinfuku'' (a seedling of kotobuki with very short stiff needles and superb material for small trees) and the other is - I believe - a Black/Red hybrid. It has extremely dark straight needles of very good waxy texture. Growth is somewhat upright and, bark is excellent and the needles are the darkest green I have ever observed. Buds are those of the red pine and needles are all black pine. It was a seedling from a batch of back pines. These will also be 1 year grafts and both very limited.
Mike
these cultivars sound interesting. Were they just a stroke of luck with these or did you get cross pollination to occur on purpose ?
Mathew,
The 'shinfuku'' was a seedling from kotobuki. A large tree I had at one time. It seems better in that it does not seem to drop needles like that one did. twigs may be a little finer too. Apart from that it is very similar but I cannot call it kotobuki obviously.
The red/black I have no idea. I don't remember where the seeds came from but it certainly stood out among all the others.
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 12th, 2017, 6:29 pm
by shibui
I have heard that hybrid red/black pine seed is a common problem with seed from Japan now. Naturally the species grew in different areas so did not cross but now trees are planted in gardens and parks all over Japan so hybrid seed is very common unless the seed is collected from isolated areas.
One batch of red pine seed I got grew trees that looked very close to Black pine. Maybe hybrid, probably mislabelled seed.
I will have a couple of cultivars at next year's convention. They will be one year grafts.
For those who are not aware, Mikes grafts are the best for bonsai I have seen anywhere. Grafted very low with great skill so the graft union is usually not visible.

Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: July 17th, 2017, 11:00 am
by robc
Thanks Shibui,
If i do make the trip to you i'll make sure i get the all-clear from you well in advance.
Mike, your hybrids sound interesting - i'll definitely take a look if you bring some to Canberra.
thanks,
Rob
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: August 4th, 2017, 11:07 am
by Mojo Moyogi
Hi Rob,
I have 15 (ish) little cutting grown Yaysabusas JBPs pencil thick in 4" pots ready to wire and put in the ground that I might be willing to part with. I have a few that are rubber wrapped, wired and twisted too, they would suit shohin or chuhin if you were to build trunks on them. Getting them to Canberra is no problem.
PM me if you are interested.
Cheers
Mojo.
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: August 4th, 2017, 12:22 pm
by Matthew
Mojo Moyogi wrote:Hi Rob,
I have 15 (ish) little cutting grown Yaysabusas JBPs pencil thick in 4" pots ready to wire and put in the ground that I might be willing to part with. I have a few that are rubber wrapped, wired and twisted too, they would suit shohin or chuhin if you were to build trunks on them. Getting them to Canberra is no problem.
PM me if you are interested.
Cheers
Mojo.
The man, The legend...... You do exist. Pm me sometime mate .
Re: [WANTED] JBP cultivars
Posted: August 9th, 2017, 10:17 am
by Mojo Moyogi
The rumours of both my fame and demise have been greatly exaggerated Matthew
