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WTB JBP seeds

Posted: August 17th, 2019, 3:02 am
by ALTOM
Hi guys,

Good day! Looking for Japanese Black Pine seeds. Fresh seeds pls from this fall.

Cheers

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: August 17th, 2019, 8:10 am
by Miikeboyle
Hey, I purchased some seeds from the only Australian based eBay seller of JBP seeds and have had none germinate yet. I did manage to get some other JBP seed from someone else and have had germination. So either the eBay ones are just slower to germinate, or I got a bad batch. Just thought I’d give you a heads up.

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: August 17th, 2019, 9:25 am
by Ryceman3
I’ve also ordered the eBay seeds with same results as Miikeboyle, on top of that they are sold as JBP “thunderhead” which are known as a variety that is quite coarse growing and so not as amenable to bonsai (particularly smaller size, shohin etc...). On top of that you would need to go through quarantine I think to bring them in from interstate (since you’re in WA) or source them from your state. Mmmm... I wish you luck, you never know I guess!

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: August 17th, 2019, 9:54 am
by TimS
I don’t want to piss on Ryceman’s strawberries because his seed grown pines are wonderful, and a far better place to start than young stock from a nursery; but I have a little experience working with WA import laws on plant material and they can be very tight owing to officially not having some pests or diseases the east coast has. I say officially because more than likely they do in fact have them.

Might be better to start with a young nursery stock plant cost and headache wise if you have a bonsai nursery within cooee of you. Or search far and wide within WA for seed.

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: August 17th, 2019, 2:04 pm
by BirchMan
Hi Altom

You either have to know someone in WA, or use the aforementioned Ebay seller. For the record I've got 3 little 'Thunderheads' poking their thunderous little heads out right now so the seed (my packet at least) is viable. There was no discernable delay getting them from over east so I assume no quarantine attention.

I tried getting some from treeseeds online in the US, as well as some Ezo but they were intercepted at quarantine. I don't expect to see those ones.

If you join the Bonsai Workshop you would probably come across a source.

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: August 29th, 2019, 1:20 am
by Greg F
Hi I had luck with about 3 out of 10 Jbp seeds purchased from ebay. They did take a while though.

Greg

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 20th, 2019, 8:47 pm
by ALTOM
cheers everyone for the help and warning. I did mange to get 10 seeds from ebay and manage to sprout 6 seeds :cool:

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 20th, 2019, 8:56 pm
by Ryceman3
ALTOM wrote: October 20th, 2019, 8:47 pm cheers everyone for the help and warning. I did mange to get 10 seeds from ebay and manage to sprout 6 seeds :cool:
Good news! Post your little guys and development please - I love this stuff! :yes:

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 20th, 2019, 9:46 pm
by tgooboon
Do you think it would be too late to start some seeds at this time of year? I just bought some on ebay and am thinking of giving it a go, otherwise is it best to keep them in the fridge until next winter

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 20th, 2019, 9:51 pm
by shibui
Past reports indicate that JBP seed will germinate well without any stratification and should grow fine at this time of year.
If you do want to store any seed keep dry in airtight container in cool dark place to extend viable life of the seeds. Fridge is good

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 20th, 2019, 10:00 pm
by tgooboon
Thanks, I'll post some photos if I have success

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 20th, 2019, 10:14 pm
by ALTOM
Will post some photos when i get a chance..i've already root prune them..I made 1 seedling cutting hope it survives. @Shibui..will it be better to keep the seed moist in the fridge rather than dry?Cheers guys :yes:

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 21st, 2019, 5:13 am
by MJL
Hey after reading Ryceman's thread, this thread and others - I wondered how to collect seeds if I had black pines around my neighbourhood. Perhaps you folk know ... but I didn't... so I entered the Google-verse and found this article really helpful. https://bonsaitonight.com/2016/08/17/gr ... pine-seed/
Just posting as an FYI for anyone interested - apologies in advance if it was posted on another thread.

Re: WTB JBP seeds

Posted: October 21st, 2019, 3:06 pm
by tgooboon
Hi shibui, do you cover your seeds with a plastic dome? Or do you water often before the seed strikes?