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[ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 9th, 2019, 11:17 am
by greg27
Hi all, I found this bad boy growing behind my shed - there are another three that I left, but I grabbed the biggest one and chucked it in a pot.
I ran a pic of the leaves through PlantNet and it came up with hackberry - is this even close? A quick Google tells me some local councils in Adelaide use the common hackberry as a street tree so it definitely grows here.
I left the top of the roots exposed as they look kind of cool and wired up one branch to level it out slightly, other than that I've left it as is.
Thanks!
Re: [ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 9th, 2019, 9:01 pm
by shibui
Now that's interesting. Medium shot sows serrated edges but closer shot shows an entire leaf edge.
I this some sort of test of have you got the photos mixed up?
Re: [ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 10th, 2019, 6:47 am
by greg27
Apologies, that was pretty misleading of me - I didn't even notice those leaves looked so different.
The closeup is what I ran through PlantNet and is of some newer growth. Attached is a photo of a more mature leaf with the serrations, that PlantNet is identifying as a European hackberry (Celtis australis).
Re: [ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 10th, 2019, 8:54 am
by melbrackstone
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This is my Celtis, but I don't think it's australis... It's a weed here in Brisbane, and I dug it up from a friend's place
Re: [ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 11th, 2019, 11:04 am
by terryb
Hi greg27,
These images show southern hackberry
Celtis australis viewtopic.php?f=134&t=22260&p=224979&hi ... is#p224979. The leaves have an asymmetrical base, are a greyish green colour and have a matt finish rather than bright, shiny green. I can see some asymmetrical bases in your first leaf photo.
Adelaide councils use both southern hackberry and also common hackberry
C. occidentalis as street trees. If you think this one originated from a street tree, check your local council web pages - some of them list the street trees they have planted. They grow super well from root cuttings, so a neighbour's tree may be sending up suckers in your yard.
terryb
Re: [ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 12th, 2019, 6:00 am
by greg27
terryb wrote: ↑October 11th, 2019, 11:04 am
These images show southern hackberry
Celtis australis
Thanks mate, I'm going to call it as Celtis australis. My council doesn't list tree species but mostly I'm surrounded by natives (Queensland box and bottlebrush) but I'll go for a bit of a wander later this morning to see if I can spot the source of these. Edit: turns out I'm blind - there's a huge one on the council verge two doors down from me.
Any luck using the ones you found back in 2016 as bonsai?
Re: [ID] Some sort of hackberry?
Posted: October 12th, 2019, 10:00 pm
by terryb
greg27 wrote: ↑October 12th, 2019, 6:00 am
Any luck using the ones you found back in 2016 as bonsai?
I've been learning how to work with them. No big, gnarly trunks but I have a couple of projects underway. Will try and get some shots for you. Dug another three a month or so ago. They just keep popping up.