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mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:09 pm
by bonsaijed1
has any one bonsai a mullberry tree ? and how did it go?
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:16 pm
by Jamie
i havent seen one myself, but one would think its possible, i would be interested in seeing one, judging by your question it seems you either have a mulberry bush in the ground or know where some are?
jamie

Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:53 pm
by kvan64
Yep, I've seen one selling on eBay. The leaves are BIG but interestingly, there were a lot of bids on this item.
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:54 pm
by Petra
Havent as yet, im still in the process for the aerial layer to take.It is taking its time last i looked there were no roots. Must get out there and look again, maybe try again also. this time with the leaves on.
I had seen one it was a while ago, saw one in a book too. They shouldnt be a problem to do, i even think the branches will be easily bendable. They rarely loose branches like other soft wood trees do. You have caused a sparked . I feel keen to trying again now.
i dont know, when does this fever ever end!
good luck with it any way. Look forward to what you come up with. Cheers!
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:58 pm
by Jamie
Petra wrote:Havent as yet, im still in the process for the aerial layer to take.It is taking its time last i looked there were no roots. Must get out there and look again, maybe try again also. this time with the leaves on.
I had seen one it was a while ago, saw one in a book too. They shouldnt be a problem to do, i even think the branches will be easily bendable. They rarely loose branches like other soft wood trees do. You have caused a sparked . I feel keen to trying again now.
i dont know, when does this fever ever end!
good luck with it any way. Look forward to what you come up with. Cheers!
petra, it sound like the layer did not or will not take because of the fact that it didnt have the leaves to push the energy to create new roots, next time you try make sure the branch you layer has lots and lots of strong growth and you should have a good chance of it taking
jamie

Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 11:01 pm
by kvan64
jamie111 wrote:Petra wrote:Havent as yet, im still in the process for the aerial layer to take.It is taking its time last i looked there were no roots. Must get out there and look again, maybe try again also. this time with the leaves on.
I had seen one it was a while ago, saw one in a book too. They shouldnt be a problem to do, i even think the branches will be easily bendable. They rarely loose branches like other soft wood trees do. You have caused a sparked . I feel keen to trying again now.
i dont know, when does this fever ever end!
good luck with it any way. Look forward to what you come up with. Cheers!
petra, it sound like the layer did not or will not take because of the fact that it didnt have the leaves to push the energy to create new roots, next time you try make sure the branch you layer has lots and lots of strong growth and you should have a good chance of it taking
jamie

Definitely, I would leave as much leaves as possible for layering. Only reduce leaves with cuttings.
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 11:11 pm
by JayP
when i worked at bonsai nursery brisbane we had a fair few, but they were a dwarf mulberry, i think it was something like 'morus alba' or white mulberry, anyway i pulled one aside which was a nice little shohin size one that was root over rock, cut it back hard and managed to completley restyle and redifine it with great ramification in the one growing season which i though was quite impressive, i styled it with the help of roger lunt, who i worked with at the time and it turned into a really nice little tree, which even produced quite a few mulberrys which were pretty tasty

anyway mate the point is they bonsai beautifully and with a bit of dynamic lifter regularly they will grow like crazy in your area and you won't be dissapointed. sadly i didn't take the the tree with me when i left there so i do not know where it ended up but i would really love to see it now, its been about 6 years sine i styled it...

but here is a pic of a dwarf mulberry for you
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 26th, 2009, 8:03 am
by Bretts
Me and my mate where given 7 of them 5 years ago when I started. I got first pick and got three.
After getting them back to health I chopped one and it refused to back bud only throwing out suckers and I eventually killed it. One I have left growing in a pot as a feature type tree.
The other best shaped one I have been growing as Bonsai since but as I was not game to cut it back it is more what I call a veranda tree.
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It is probably just this species of mulberry that has issues of back budding. I had this issue with another big mulberry that got chopped down across the street and I dug it out. It stayed alive for two years even starting to heal the cabrium but refused to put out any buds. As this was also a weeping mulberry it was probably exactly the same tree as these three I got.
I have seen some very nice ones in books and would be keen to experiment with them more.
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 26th, 2009, 9:40 am
by sreeve
Hi Bonsaijed1,
I bought a white and black mulberry about 7 years ago from a standard nursery. Both are doing fine to this day.
They are very hardy and grow fast. If you buy small stock, then it is better with this species to put them in a large pit to thicken the trunk up.
You may find that you have to repot twice a year as the roots grow quickly.
Both fruit copiously which is nice to be able to eat the fruit on your bonsai trees. (I reckon the white is better as it is much sweeter)
Anyway, give it a go I think you will be happy with the result
Regards
Steve
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 26th, 2009, 11:22 am
by paddles
I have a big weeping mulberry in the back yard, and I would have said that the leaves were too large for good bonsai. but obviously some spieces do work well.
Just a casee I guess of getting the right species
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 26th, 2009, 1:31 pm
by AGarcia
Hello,
I have a dwarf mulberry and it is fairly hardy. The small red fruit is tasty. Need to watch out for scale. Leaf size is reasonable and will shrink with regular pruning.
I put mine in the ground for a few years as it didn't do much in a pot. It now has a good size trunk and is back in a bonsai pot.
The branch training is getting there slowing. I am pruning back the long shoots to 2 leaf pairs to get branching, but it tends to only grow one new shoot from the last leaf junction.
These are my experiences, but it is a good decidous bonsai spcimen for the warmer Australian climates.
I can put up a pic if interested.
AG
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 26th, 2009, 8:20 pm
by bonsaijed1
instead of layering use a cutting with root hormone it will strike
Re: mullberry tree
Posted: November 26th, 2009, 8:26 pm
by bonsaijed1
AGarcia wrote:Hello,
I have a dwarf mulberry and it is fairly hardy. The small red fruit is tasty. Need to watch out for scale. Leaf size is reasonable and will shrink with regular pruning.
I put mine in the ground for a few years as it didn't do much in a pot. It now has a good size trunk and is back in a bonsai pot.
The branch training is getting there slowing. I am pruning back the long shoots to 2 leaf pairs to get branching, but it tends to only grow one new shoot from the last leaf junction.
These are my experiences, but it is a good decidous bonsai spcimen for the warmer Australian climates.
I can put up a pic if interested.
AG
yeah pls show pic thak you