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Pine ID help

Posted: November 21st, 2022, 9:40 am
by Oliver E
Hey,
There is a stand of these Pines along the water race in South west Sydney. Someone told me they were Japanese Black Pines. I was sceptical and had a closer look.
Anyone got a good idea for Pines?
What's the best identifying features?
Thanks
Oliver

Re: Pine ID help

Posted: November 21st, 2022, 10:27 am
by treeman
radiata

Re: Pine ID help

Posted: November 21st, 2022, 12:24 pm
by Oliver E
Easy thanks.

Re: Pine ID help

Posted: November 21st, 2022, 7:37 pm
by shibui
Pine Id is a combination of:
a - how many needles in a sheath. That lets us know which sub-group the species belongs to.
b - cones. Size, shape and the protrusions on each cone scale are diagnostic.
c - bark. Different species have different bark colour and pattern.
d - overall shape and size of the tree. Some species are typically wide and spreading, a few grow as flat top, some are tall and skinny.

Put all that together along with some guesses based on likelihood of a species being in that area gives us a fairly good idea.
JBP does not have 3 needles so definitely not JBP
Radiata is one of the species that usually has 3 needles and it is widely grown in Aust so that's likely.

Re: Pine ID help

Posted: November 23rd, 2022, 9:16 am
by Oliver E
Thanks Shibui for the more in-depth response.
I appreciate it.