is this chinese juniper???

[Luke]

i need to confirm this is a Chinese juniper......




cheers
luke

[NBPCA]

Looks like a somewhat starved Himalayan Cedar, Cedrus deodara. more fertilizer and a little shade in summer.

Grant

[Luke]

i am still unsure... it was next to a very similar tree that actually had a name tag... i got it a few days ago cuz it was looking so unloved! we have had very hot weather here... it was brought from bunnings so a major overhaul of the whole tree is needed....
id love to know for sure what it is............

any help would be great

cheers
luke

[barefoot]

Labelling is not always the best in Nuseries or Supermarkets.
I would believe Grant.

[Jamie]

i think grant is right, when it comes back to strong health the needles will change colour slightly being more vibrant and it could possible have a weeping habit?
i am pretty sure the cedar i had was deodar it was healthy and strong then all of a sudden just died.. im not sure what the problem was, i think possible my climate i have here in QLD


jamie

[Luke]

thanks grant! and jamie and barefoot!
This is the tree in a couple views (rotated clockwise)... drastic work is needed to be sure... i am trying to figure out what i want!
any ideas????
P.S. (view d) is nice but all branches are going away from the viewer! (hard to tell in that pic)...












ideas would be Great~!
thanks
luke

[Luke]

after getting home and realizing it was better looking when on the supermarket shelf, air layering in the middle was a first thought...
or not chopping and making a 'wind swept'...... who knows..... iv got staring and spinning to do!

peace
luke

[Grant Bowie]

Hi,

sorry but it is definately a Himalayan Cedar.

They struggle in hot and humid climates apparently but are great for cooler climates.

Check with locals as to how it goes in your climate.

Grant

[Jamie]

Hi,

sorry but it is definately a Himalayan Cedar.

They struggle in hot and humid climates apparently but are great for cooler climates.

Check with locals as to how it goes in your climate.

Grant

i can vouch for that. pretty much so anyways, i think that is what caused mine to die. it seemed really healthy and was growing realy strong and then boom, dead, i think that it needed a rest period that it just didnt get in this climate and growing conditions.


jamie

[Mojo Moyogi]

liquidluke, it is either Cedrus deodara or a sickly example of Cedrus atlantica. I wouldn't mess around with airlayering the tree until it has had a chance to gain some vigour, perhaps some half strength doses of seasol alternated with fish emulsion every 2 weeks. Put any styling plans on hold until spring. Like Grant, I have heard reports that they don't do well in QLD, of the 2 species, C.atlantica appears to be slightly stronger in warm humid climates.

Noah78 has a Cedrus libani (Cedar of Lebanon) that he got from me last year, I have been meaning to ask how it went up north in Rocky.

Cheers
MM

[Luke]

yep i totally agree.. the temperature and humidity here in QLD are quite mean to some trees! azaleas, Japanese maples, conifers all either dont like me or where i put them.... ahh well ill try to find a cool spot for this fella! and introduce a regular seasol/charlie carp fert plan...
cheers guys
luke

[Leigh Taafe]

Yep - definately Himalayan Cedar (cedrus deodara)

Cheers,
Leigh.

[Luke]

the votes are in...... bunnings is $%&# at bonsai!!!
iv got patience! this lil sherpa gunna be a much different tree by the much advertised apocalypse..
Im needing to set up more shade cloth soon.. that is my mission..

cheers
luke

[Grant Bowie]

Most conifers like plenty of sun but may just need some light shade during the worst of summer heat in your area.

If you keep it in heavy shade all year round you may end up with other problems.

Grant

[Greth]

Yes, I havent got much nice to say about Bunnings bonsai, or the plants in general at our local one, the big one in the city can come up with some treasures tho.
One thing I discovered working at another hardware chain in Port Hedland was that they did not alter the range of plants to suit local conditions. We were being supplied with violets when our daily temps were around 48C, with fairly predictable results. I have no idea whether any of the cool weather plants survived long enough to be bought by locals, but they had absolutely no chance of surviving outside a climate chamber. Because of national advertising, however, we had to carry the same stock as Melbourne or Hobart...
Similarly we were well supplied by department stores with winter woolies when the daily temps were up in the 30s.