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Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 11:39 am
by alpineart
This was collected back in Winter 2008,a natural ground branch layer with the help of "Skippy and Bambi" .
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Whilst it never looked promising i did place it into a grow box and left it to its own device.In September 2009 i place it into a large bonsia pot where it was trimmed and again left .
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It didn't appeal to me , but knowing the age of the tree {planted in the early 1940's} i did hang onto it .
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Several weeks ago i needed a pot , so i ripped it out and had a play
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 11:45 am
by alpineart
As you can see it has a little bit of appeal now , the foliage is sparse but give it time and i should progress nicely .Chers Alpineart
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Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 11:56 am
by Grant Bowie
Looks like a Chamaecyparis obtusa of some sort, or maybe intermedia?
Nice use of existing material and not an easy one.
Grant
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 12:18 pm
by Chris Sirre
Grant Bowie wrote:Looks like a Chamaecyparis obtusa of some sort, or maybe intermedia?
Nice use of existing material and not an easy one.
Grant
It's definitely not a Chamaecyparis obtusa. It could be Chamaecyparis pisifera "Filifera but it's hard to see to be 100% sure.
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 12:35 pm
by craigw60
I would have guessed some kind of thuja. The growth looks a little course for chamaecyparis. I have a few pisifera hybrids in the garden and they seem to be a bit more compact than this one.
Craig
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 12:37 pm
by alpineart
Hi Grant , not much could be done with it ,but its better than when collected .
Hi Chris I have posted a pic of the foliage in the I.D section under CEDAR I.D hoping someone could put a name to it . The silver is the underside of the foliage .Cheers Fella's
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 12:41 pm
by Chris Sirre
Like I said it's hard to see to be 100% sure. Thuja have a distinctive smell. A close up of the leaves will help. It looks like the plant have been damaged in the past. It definitly doesn't lok like nursery stock

Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 12:49 pm
by alpineart
Chris Sirre wrote:Like I said it's hard to see to be 100% sure. Thuja have a distinctive smell. A close up of the leaves will help. It looks like the plant have been damaged in the past. It definitly doesn't lok like nursery stock

Hi Chris , this was planted around 1945-46 , it has a distinctive smell of Indian Hemp , Hoochy Coochy , Dope .This may help
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 2:43 pm
by MattA
Coniferous hoochifera maybe
Matt
All this reading & meetings & little sleep the jokes are getting bad.. sorry all
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 3:01 pm
by Chris Sirre
It sounds like it is a Thuja either occidentalis or orientalis.
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 3:08 pm
by Jamie
i agree with craig probably more likely a thuja, i dont think is C. psifira as they are different to that.
great work with material though alpine and really if you like the tree and are keeping it happy and healthy thats what counts!
jamie

Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 4:10 pm
by alpineart
Here you go guys, its the best i can do ,bloody amatuer
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Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 4:15 pm
by Jamie
looking at that foliage alpine i think i will change my first thought, i think it could possibly be one of the juniper x media "???" the foliage does look a little coarse but i have seen junipers with coarse foliage like that, i beleive by looking at that foliage you will be able to gain density by pinching tips.
remember pinching tips creates density in the pads not back budding

Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 4:25 pm
by alpineart
Jamie wrote:looking at that foliage alpine i think i will change my first thought, i think it could possibly be one of the juniper x media "???" the foliage does look a little coarse but i have seen junipers with coarse foliage like that, i beleive by looking at that foliage you will be able to gain density by pinching tips.
remember pinching tips creates density in the pads not back budding

Hi Jamie this is on the other mother , the base of the branch of the collected layers .Pinching does work a treat for thickening this foliage .The original tree was about 20 feet high with a base about 600mm approx' 70 years old growing in damp conditions near a gully .It did have a natural Aussie bush canopy close by .Cheers
Re: Unidentified conifer
Posted: June 2nd, 2010, 5:17 pm
by Dumper
looks like thuja occidentalis cedar... smaragd...
cause the foliage is not compact.