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Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 11:21 am
by anttal63
Purchased this one last year Collecters Corner... Thanks again Bruce... 8-) 8-) 8-) Got its first training pot today. It stands soil to tip 240mm and 80mm across the base, thats not the nebari. So by others standards it is 3:1. When im finished and exposed the nebari, by my standards 2:1. OH and still not sumo :lol: :P :lol: This is gonna be a rippa!!! too ;) 8-) :D
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Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 11:29 am
by Scott Roxburgh
Hi Ant,

Whats with the curly branches? All of my C. elm have grown straight up for the light?

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 11:37 am
by anttal63
Scott Roxburgh wrote:Hi Ant,

Whats with the curly branches? All of my C. elm have grown straight up for the light?

This is the tree that came home with chinese foliage, dropped it and then grew hokkeido foliage :shock: When i inquired with Bruce as to whats going on. He thought the grower might have used a growth retardent for smaller folliage. We will now see this coming Spring as to what the deal really is... :D 8-) ;)

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 12:51 pm
by astroboy76
apparently hokaido and seiju are actually chinese elms. Seiju actually started as a mutant growth on a chinese elm.

my brothers hokaido elm constantly grows chinese elm foliage from one spot on the trunk. he is forever cutting it off but it keeps growing back and it grows so strongly it slows downt eh groth of the rest of the tree!

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 3:19 pm
by anttal63
astroboy76 wrote:apparently hokaido and seiju are actually chinese elms. Seiju actually started as a mutant growth on a chinese elm.

my brothers hokaido elm constantly grows chinese elm foliage from one spot on the trunk. he is forever cutting it off but it keeps growing back and it grows so strongly it slows downt eh groth of the rest of the tree!

Hey buddy could be too. I have seen this on another as well. :D

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 6:08 pm
by Jamie
i was confused with the first pic too!

interesting that it has gone to seiju/hokkaido leaf size and growth pattern. if it is a growth retardent that has been used it can take a long time for it to exit the tree's system, note- that is what i have heard, never experienced, read into it a little aswell, it could of possibly been the bonzabud that can be brought in hydro shops.

anyways back to the tree :D im keen to see this one when it fills out and becomes a nice broom variant style tree, which i resume ya going for with styling a deciduous tree like a deciduous tree ;)


jamie :D

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 6:13 pm
by Heshian
Hey Ant,

Great start on that elm. scars should heal fast. looking forward to when its finished.

mario

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: July 26th, 2010, 6:34 pm
by anttal63
Jamie i was told bonsabud was used and it only last one season. The tree has still put on growth and the roots were as healthy and abundant as! Now we will see. Thanks mate yes like a deciduous... ;)

Mario thanks mate, yeah im not worried by the scars, just not sure i want to heal them yet... we will see. :D ;) 8-)

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: August 13th, 2012, 12:29 pm
by anttal63
Time for an update on this one. I have just repotted into a PK pot so the last 2 yrs it has just been growing and getting styled. At the moment it is still sporting some of last years folige with new buds bursting all over the place. The nebari is looking real good however it was getting dark last night and no time to photograph. No time to style, still quite a few trees to get through. Will defoliate and wire mid summer. Just let it find its legs in the new pot. Yes foliage has managed to stay smallish, but that could be the defoliating. It is definately growing healthy. :tu:
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Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: August 13th, 2012, 1:04 pm
by FatMingsBonsai
Nicely growing mate,..good work.

Be nice once she fills out with some wiring :tu:

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: August 13th, 2012, 1:23 pm
by Dario
Nice one Antonio!
I look forward to seeing it once it has been defoliated, wired and styled later on in the growing season :cool:
Cheers, Dario.

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: August 13th, 2012, 6:36 pm
by Andrew Legg
Very nice pot Antonio! I think it compliments the tree very well! Good job on the selection. I like where the tree is headed as well, but if Italian is beautiful mate, that 'groundcover'??????? Too same'ish mate! You need to go for something that allows that pot and that tree to really speak to us! That gravel matches the pot and bark too close to let 'em sing. :P

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Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: August 13th, 2012, 7:15 pm
by anttal63
Andrew Legg wrote:Very nice pot Antonio! I think it compliments the tree very well! Good job on the selection. I like where the tree is headed as well, but if Italian is beautiful mate, that 'groundcover'??????? Too same'ish mate! You need to go for something that allows that pot and that tree to really speak to us! That gravel matches the pot and bark too close to let 'em sing. :P

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Listen here mate i tell you again ITALIAN IS BEAUTIFUL BABY !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks Andrew im stoked with the tree in this pot, it has taken it to the next level. You are so right on the stone. It didnt even occur to me ! :palm: :tu:
Dario wrote:Nice one Antonio!
I look forward to seeing it once it has been defoliated, wired and styled later on in the growing season :cool:
Cheers, Dario.
Thanks Dario heres one of last October...
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FatMingsBonsai wrote:Nicely growing mate,..good work.

Thanks mate yes im looking forward to it ! :tu:

Be nice once she fills out with some wiring :tu:

Re: Ummmmmm Chinese Elm...

Posted: August 13th, 2012, 7:50 pm
by Andrew Legg
I'll let you off, but just this once!! :twisted:

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