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+Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 1st, 2010, 4:42 pm
by aussie4bonsai
+I had this Siberian Elm given to me yesterday to V-cut and when the mix was removed photos below
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+This is what was left to work with.
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+Roots ready to graft.
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+After grafting
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+Ready for Spring with a few branch cuttings that might be handy later.

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 1st, 2010, 5:32 pm
by anttal63
There's some pics missing aussie??? I am assuming you have drilled holes into the trunks and dowelled the roots in??? Have you done this before and how is the success rate??? I will be keeping an eye on this one thanks for sharing. :D 8-) :D

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 1st, 2010, 10:21 pm
by aussie4bonsai
Have you done this before and how is the success rate??? I will be keeping an eye on this one thanks for sharing. :D 8-) :D[/quote]

+Hi Antonio
I have used this method for over a year and I haven’t found any dead roots yet.
They are tightly doweled in and the cambium is joined
I normally only do one or two roots, and as I had only had one original root on each I had plenty of room for grafting.
I can’t see any difference in this method and the toothpick method if the root dies then there’s a good chance that new roots will form around this area.
If you have a good root why use a toothpick.
Barry

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 1st, 2010, 10:29 pm
by Bretts
Can't argue with that :D :lol: Nice work Aussie!

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 1st, 2010, 11:29 pm
by anttal63
aussie4bonsai wrote:Have you done this before and how is the success rate??? I will be keeping an eye on this one thanks for sharing. :D 8-) :D
+Hi Antonio
I have used this method for over a year and I haven’t found any dead roots yet.
They are tightly doweled in and the cambium is joined
I normally only do one or two roots, and as I had only had one original root on each I had plenty of room for grafting.
I can’t see any difference in this method and the toothpick method if the root dies then there’s a good chance that new roots will form around this area.
If you have a good root why use a toothpick.
Barry[/quote]



Barry thanks for replying, im very interested in this method. have you done it on any other specie's??? What state of Australia are you in??? :D

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 1st, 2010, 11:51 pm
by Gerard
I like your thinking Aussie thanks for sharing, I can't wait to give it a try 8-)

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 2nd, 2010, 11:27 am
by aussie4bonsai
Barry thanks for replying, im very interested in this method. have you done it on any other specie's??? What state of Australia are you in??? :D[/quote]

Antonio
I live in Sydney, and i would try this on any tree that needs it,I have tried Maples and Figs, Elm.
when reducing roots that are healthy and are 4 to 6 mm below the cambium.
i like to select a drill slightly smaller and taper the hole by moving the drill around, this gives a good fit and lets the cambium join.
Barry
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Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 2nd, 2010, 2:39 pm
by anttal63
Thanks Barry i have some English elm i am going to try this on!!! :D

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 8th, 2010, 7:40 pm
by anttal63
Did a japanese maple this morning. It was easy as to your instructions, couldnt believe how tight a fit. Cant wait till next year now. Thanks again. :D 8-) :D

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 4:44 pm
by aussie4bonsai
anttal63 wrote:Did a japanese maple this morning. It was easy as to your instructions, couldnt believe how tight a fit. Cant wait till next year now. Thanks again. :D 8-) :D
Hi antonio
I hope it goes well for you, Its easy if you have a good set of drills.
I finish another Elm today and I'm taking photos so I will remember which roots I've done.
Barry

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 4:57 pm
by baturb
I have seen photos of toothpics used before with no text to eplain the process, could you post the technique you used and how to use the toothpics
thanks

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 5:35 pm
by aussie4bonsai
baturb wrote:I have seen photos of toothpics used before with no text to eplain the process, could you post the technique you used and how to use the toothpics
thanks
+Hi Baturb
If you read this post through from the beginning you will get a fair idea of grafting a root, if you don’t understand anything post a question.
I have never used the toothpick method so I can’t help you, if you type in (toothpick) in Search you will get all the information that you want.
Barry

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 7:38 pm
by baturb
looking at the pics, you used the roots cutting a v grove in them then placed another cutting on top then planting it all together, is this correct? I read up on the toothpick method, looks and sounds easy enough for me to have a go at it in the near future

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 8:22 pm
by aussie4bonsai
baturb wrote:looking at the pics, you used the roots cutting a v grove in them then placed another cutting on top then planting it all together, is this correct? I read up on the toothpick method, looks and sounds easy enough for me to have a go at it in the near future
+In the beginning the elm was give to me to cut the middle out of the stump and screw together.
Look up V-cut in search and you will under stand.
The roots for grafting have the ends prepared as they are shown (roots on a blue lid) ends cut back just below cambium a drill is selected 0.2mm below the size of the prepared root end and when you have drilled the hole deep enough you revolve power drill slightly, this produces a tapered hole that the root will be pushed into if the cambium doesn’t meet you drill or cut a bit more till it dose.
The idea is to Jamb them in tight so they can’t move when repotting and I use a grafting wax to seal around the root, you could use honey.
Barry

Re: +Root grafting Siberian Elm

Posted: December 4th, 2010, 12:21 pm
by aussie4bonsai
When I did this root grafting I took a liking to the stump as the bottom looked like it would make a good turtle back, every body knows that roots don’t grow upside down.
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This one did :D
Barry