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				That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:15 pm
				by banksia
				Nebari Overkill....Is there such a concept??...I don't find it as attractive as the traditional form of nebari. What do you guys think?
No doubt an exceptional amount of time and skill has gone into this, so it's not to say I don't appreciate it.
        
                                                          Cheers!!
                                                                       Anthony  

 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:19 pm
				by Pup
				I am also of the opinion this is too false looking. While I do appreciate the work involved in getting it where it is. I also believe you have to see the whole picture.
As in the whole tree to really appreciate it.
 Cheers 

 Pup
 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:24 pm
				by cosmo123
				I agree that there has been great effort to get this effect...but...the thing looks totally unnatural to me...
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:33 pm
				by Amanda
				
  It looks like concrete
 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:40 pm
				by 63pmp
				You only get nebari like this with old age.  It is the result of years of in pot training.  Its a shame the rest of the tree was not presented. 
Paul
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:42 pm
				by banksia
				I agree. A significant aspect of Bonsai is the element of perspective, so maybe it was unfair not to post the whole tree.You asked for it....so here it is. I still think it looks too contrived/odd.
                                       Cheers!
                                                   Anthony  

 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:49 pm
				by 63pmp
				I would swap every tree in my collection, and my right arm, to have one tree like this.
Paul
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 3:58 pm
				by MelaQuin
				Next time I dog walk in Sydney Park I can get a photo of a fig that has a wonderful circumference of nebari but they are roots, not a solid mass.  I do agree the tree is stunning but the nebari looks like one of the metal stands for large umbrellas.  Yes, there is such a thing as overkill and it has been well and truly achieved here.  At least you wouldn't have to worry about moss growing up the trunk...it would never have the stamina to reach it.
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 4:11 pm
				by 63pmp
				This nebari is like the fine patina of an ancient statue, it develops only with time.
Paul
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 4:25 pm
				by Bretts
				Nothing a ground layer wouldn't fix  

 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 4:40 pm
				by MattA
				I am not overly fond of this nebari however it does show the years it has been growing as a bonsai.
I too would have said it was unnatural if I hadnt seen some of the water gums that have been planted as street tree's in Sydney. While not on the same scale, given another hundred years or so they will be getting up there. The trunks were approx 2' in dia with a fused nebari like on this Zelkova that was close to the same. The nebari spread from the curb to the footpath and had started pushing on both!
Matt
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 5:47 pm
				by kcpoole
				Not for me I am afraid. I can appreciate the work to get it, but does not mean I have to like it
Until i saw the full picture, I was going to comment on the reverse taper at the top of the original photo too
tha second one shows that it is just the start of the broom 
 
Ken
 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 5:47 pm
				by kcpoole
				Not for me I am afraid. I can appreciate the work to get it, but does not mean I have to like it
Until i saw the full picture, I was going to comment on the reverse taper at the top of the original photo too
the second one shows that it is just the start of the broom 
 
Ken
 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 5:55 pm
				by teejay
				Is this tree by Keiichi Fujikawa? A great deal of his deciduous trees seem to have nebari like this.
			 
			
					
				Re: That's not Nebari, this is........
				Posted: August 16th, 2010, 6:05 pm
				by anttal63
				Not my cup of tea thats for sure!!! Would i have the tree? In a heart beat!!! 
