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Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 4:07 pm
by Mitchell
Hi all!

Haven't made any clay vessels in a while, so thought I might take some shots as I go.

Feel free to add your 2cents as we go along.

I think by now we realize this method is sub par and not equivalent to having access to a kiln.
I as for one, envy anyone that does and wish I had access also. I know I could go to a local Tafe etc, but I just don't have the time to drop off and pick up.

I have been utilizing such pots for over 2 years now and they have shown no sign of decay/cracks.



This process of making, baking and finishing shall take over 6 hours, so later on tonight I should have some vessels ready to go.
Once again this is not pottery. I know how much effort goes into firing a load and constantly keeping an eye on progression heats and cooling down periods.
Penny spends many,many,many hours ensuring her pots are top quality. I encourage every Australian bonsai artist to purchase her work, with the knowledge that it shall be around much longer than them on this earth. :)


My method should be considered a poor and anti-social mans way of producing a vessel to hold his plants for training, or a means to hone your clay sculpting skills prior to attempting a real pot. Alternatively to following this tut, go out and join a pottery group and do it properly, I wish I could and for this amount of effort you could be making real pots.

Here's a link to another famous home brew attempt. http://www.bonsai4me.com/AdvTech/ATPaperBonsaiPots.html
The problems I have found with this method are (I've tried it numerous times now, to ensure I wasn't the issue)-
-Cement is fragile, clay bakes harder and cracks less.
-The paper strands suck up the moisture and create cracks.
-The paper doesn't smooth like the cement, and leaves tatty edges/creases.
-Cement pots are very very fragile, as in a knock will crack them.
-When drying in the oven at speed the clay cracks less than cement.
-Clay can be sanded smooth after oven bake, cement is harder to correct imperfections





It starts with a bag of Plaster Master Fireclay.
This can be purchased from any Buzzings place. Please buy it elsewhere if you can find it.

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 4:48 pm
by Mitchell
Ok, so 17 views = at least someone is interested. C'mon, come out of the closet, add a comment, you know your interested. :roll:

Let's continue. :D

I've decided, if tonight is the night, might as well make a theme of it. Shohin it is!!



How many vessels we gonna make...??? Let's grab about 3 kgs of fire clay... that should.... at a guess produce... over 10 nice lil' shohin vessels.

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 4:51 pm
by buddaboy
Hey, Ive never got 100% on a test before. :lol:

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 5:48 pm
by Levuccio
Thats awesome, I sure am interested...bring it on! :)

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 5:49 pm
by Mitchell
So... How much water should we add buddaboy? :D Let's put it in a couple of plastic bags, so the missus doesn't get annoyed. :D


it's all up to us now..!! :D

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 6:06 pm
by Mitchell
Maybe a lil' bit...

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 6:09 pm
by Mitchell
or maybe a bit more...

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 6:38 pm
by Jarrod
My opinion is that my challenge is to grow the tree, the potters that I pay my monies to can have the challenge of making a pot that will suit my hardwork. I do admire those who make their own pots, but I would rather get on with growing my trees.

Can you add the option: I admire those that do, but I prefer to focus on the tree

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 6:46 pm
by Mitchell
NO probs, Jarrod. I too admire those that have the time too. :)

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 7:13 pm
by Mitchell
so, we have our water and clay. What shall we next constuct...


Come on people, wet clay, what do you want...


Name it, I'll make it...


I'm going to wait till someone suggest a form.,, Waiting... C;mon :D

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 7:29 pm
by Taffy
'Moon' pot - or standard oval pot?

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 8:17 pm
by king8484561
Hey Mitchell,
I am a little confused being a newbie, whats the difference between a vessel and a pot? As for a style, I am currently working on a cascade bonsai so would like to see a cascade pot.

cheers,

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 30th, 2010, 7:42 pm
by Levuccio
Any updates yet? :)

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 30th, 2010, 8:14 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
Hi Mitchell,

Thank you for the post. I appreciate this one. Bookmarked it already :)

I have not tried this method yet. Sounds a bit hard. And as everybody, I have tried wooden boxes.

I have tried concrete and wire-mesh. A small square one. Much too heavy, I suspect, if I do it again, it
will be a bit better.

Lately, I have been dreaming about fibre-glass sheet, around 1cm thick so that it can be screwed. So
far, I have not been successful in finding it yet.

What does everybody else think?

Best regards.

Re: Bonsai Vessels Made At Home

Posted: September 30th, 2010, 8:46 pm
by stymie
I've voted and have a beady eye focussed on your thread. I would imagine that rustic and crescent shapes will be easiest. Let 'em flow man.