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Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: October 21st, 2010, 2:49 pm
by aussie4bonsai
I dug this azalea out of a neighbors front yard 16/9/2010, it had been planted up against a tree for over 30years and over those year the tree roots stopped the azalea roots from going down and it had to spread side ways making a nice big nebari.
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Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: October 21st, 2010, 8:03 pm
by nealweb
Wow, solid material, nice find :D

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: December 30th, 2010, 12:09 pm
by aussie4bonsai
Today two months and a week later this is a Christmas cheer for me.
It’s going so well I am thinking of layering the top.
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Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: December 30th, 2010, 3:20 pm
by Beaumatsu
wow that looks great i would air layer the top aswell and just in my opion :2c: i would get rid of some of the multiple truks leave the strogest one or two cut them a bit lower and some new braches might start to appear i would love to have an 30 year old azelea. keep us posted on what you decide to do and what colour flowers does it have?

Ohh and is that kanuma you have that azelea growing in?

BeauMatsu

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: December 31st, 2010, 5:32 pm
by aussie4bonsai
Hi BeauMatsu
Yes the potting mix is Kanuma
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These flowers were on when I dug it up.
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This photo shows the amount I will cut back
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I left the whips on so I can thread graft onto the main trunk some think like is this.
Happy New Year
Barry

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 5th, 2011, 4:21 pm
by Damian Bee
Dont cut back too hard just yet, it needs a year to strengthen up before you do any major work. Die back can be a serious problem when you cut off heavy branches.

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 5th, 2011, 4:27 pm
by Damian Bee
Not sure about it being Christmas Cheer, I have one similar here at home but it is as yet un-named. :lost:

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 5th, 2011, 5:17 pm
by aussie4bonsai
Hi Damian
I was thinking of layering the top in a month, do you think I am a bit eager.
The flowers were photographed in the night with a flash so the colour is a bit bright.

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 5th, 2011, 6:59 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
I would wait, It is great material that you dont want to lose, I know that I have jumped the gun plenty of times doing too many things too soon... :palm:

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 10:10 am
by aussie4bonsai
Scott Roxburgh wrote:I would wait, It is great material that you dont want to lose, I know that I have jumped the gun plenty of times doing too many things too soon... :palm:
Hi Scott
I know what your saying but time is a factor, I would save a year in time layer in February and remove in spring or later.
I was thinking of thread grafting the whips and having the bush down to the size end of this year, so I could start or the branch structure.
In the photo the red line shows the area I want to keep the blue box shows were I would like to layer, the layers are secondary to my plan if they work good if they don’t they end up in the bin as they would if I didn’t layer.
Barry
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Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 10:55 am
by Scott Roxburgh
30 year old stock vs 1 extra year delay... :lost:

I think the wait is worth it.

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 10:59 am
by Damian Bee
In regards to the Christmas Cheer topic, here is a link to a photo of that type in flower, it looks a little different to the one you posted.
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:whistle: I think you should wait until August/September before you do any cutting back or layering, not much growth will occur between Feb and August. The foliage on the plant now will provide it with the energy it needs to recover from the stress of transplant. I have lost a couple of beauties because I was to eager to get into them :shake:
I think a better course of action would be to feed and tip prune so that most of the coming flower buds are removed and you can encourage some shoots further back down the trunk.
There is no point in pushing for fast development only to loose the plant completely.
Cool those jets Barry :wave:

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 11:00 am
by Damian Bee
In regards to the Christmas Cheer topic, here is a link to a photo of that type in flower, it looks a little different to the one you posted.
viewtopic.php?f=132&t=6221

:whistle: I think you should wait until August/September before you do any cutting back or layering, not much growth will occur between Feb and August. The foliage on the plant now will provide it with the energy it needs to recover from the stress of transplant. I have lost a couple of beauties because I was to eager to get into them :shake:
I think a better course of action would be to feed and tip prune so that most of the coming flower buds are removed and you can encourage some shoots further back down the trunk.
There is no point in pushing for fast development only to loose the plant completely.
Cool those jets Barry :wave:

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 11:02 am
by Damian Bee
Oops :palm:

thats what happens when you backtrack looking for a previous post, now we can compare the drafts I guess. :lol:

Re: Old garden Azalea (Christmas cheer)

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 11:46 am
by nealweb
[quote="Damian Bee"]

:whistle: I think you should wait until August/September before you do any cutting back or layering...





I have never done a layer but I believe it is a summer job, best done in December 8-)