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Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 11:42 am
by PeterH
Here are couple of natives in their natural form. A little bit more about what Australian trees should look like not like the contemporary styles we make them look like.Peter
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 11:50 am
by rch003
Bottom one is really cool man!
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 12:14 pm
by Ozmad
This has always been a long discussion on-line and also in the bonsai club I'm in. Is it a natural Australian style or is it a contemporary style. At the end of the day it seems that you can always put any tree into the contemporary styles that we all know, but i'm happy to get into the discussion on whether it is or. The first tree you posted is broom style.
the natural Australia style as people call, or yamadori, collected tree from nature, can still be classified into the contemporary styles
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 2:40 pm
by Petra
Here in the central west many of the calitris are all over the area, in cluding on our property. I never really new the name of them. I always called them the upside down . They are amazing the way they grow. They look like something that should be in a hanging pot. I did try to pot one up years ago , but it died. Looking at them again inspires me.

Looks like a trip to the local forest nursery tomorrow.

So glad you mentioned the name of it Peter.
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 3:48 pm
by Aussie_Bonsai
great photos mate, your right that the way australian bonsai should look, the natural way they grow.
Ben
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 5:05 pm
by PeterH
Ozmad wrote:This has always been a long discussion on-line and also in the bonsai club I'm in. Is it a natural Australian style or is it a contemporary style.
Ozmad
Yes it has, but Im not going there. As people grow in the art they will eventually understand.
Petra
Petra wrote:Here in the central west many of the calitris are all over the area, in cluding on our property.
My inlaws are out in the west. The calltris pic was off there property. The few that I have in captivaty have problems with negative tapper close to the soil level.
I to have had bad results from collecting out west. The ones that survive come out with a good root ball. I found that due to the dry environment the main feeder roots are quite some distance from the trunk.
The young ones seem to do the best.
Peter
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 5:20 pm
by Bretts
Second one is very reminisent of trees around here the first though is a sick tree and not a true representation of how the tree should look.

Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 6:44 pm
by MattA
Bretts wrote:Second one is very reminisent of trees around here the first though is a sick tree and not a true representation of how the tree should look.

The Callitris gives me ideas for a stock tree in a local nursery... it has been there a long time & isnt small..hhmmmm
Brett, the banksia is not well... too long without water or just natural ageing, but only part of the tree is in decline.. the left side is very strong.
Imagine it was a bonsai that has died in part for some reason.. dry/wet spot in the pot, pest disease or just natural aging, you chop the dead parts out or make jin then restyle and grow on.
What does mother nature do? Sheds the dead parts or turns them into jin & then grows into the next form it will take.
man likes to force time...
mother nature marks her own
man restyles then grows..
mother nature is always in style
Matt
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 6:58 pm
by PeterH
Both were taken during drought. Wind and lighting were the artists for the callitris. The Banksia was in a cattle paddock not effected by other trees and the structure is a good representation of they grow without many influences.
Peter
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 16th, 2010, 8:38 pm
by MattA
PeterH wrote:Both were taken during drought. Wind and lighting were the artists for the callitris. The Banksia was in a cattle paddock not effected by other trees and the structure is a good representation of they grow without many influences.
Peter
In its glory it would have been a stunning broom. I do think that the central line atleast is lost for good., this is still a relatively young tree so its only natural that it should continue to grow evolve and change into the future.
Thanks for sharing the pics, I am going to grab that big Calllitris in the next couple days and try to aim for somethign similar to the one you posted. I have always eyed off that tree but never been sure how I would work with it, especially since its branchs dont start till 700mm high & its over 2.1m tall.
Matt
Re: Natural Form
Posted: December 18th, 2010, 8:01 pm
by PeterH
MattA wrote:I am going to grab that big Calllitris in the next couple days and try to aim for somethign similar to the one you posted. I have always eyed off that tree but never been sure how I would work with it, especially since its branchs dont start till 700mm high & its over 2.1m tall.
Good luck with that dig. My success rate is not good with these. Maybe after all this rain is a good time.
Peter