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Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 7:56 am
by pjkatich
Happy New Year to everyone.

P. angustifolia is a species of plum that is native to North America and is known locally as the Chickasaw plum. According to my reference material, this species of plum was cultivated by native Americans (Chickasaw Indians) before the arrival of European colonists.

Here is a current photo of one of my Chickasaw plum bonsai.
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This particular tree was grown from a stump that I collected in 1993.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 8:08 am
by astroboy76
i like it alot. do u have any pics of it in flower?

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 8:21 am
by Damian Bee
Hi Paul,
Its great, I like the movement in the branches and the trunk with the deadwood, it gives the tree a wild and dramatic look :cool:
If I may, there is a bit too much going on with the branches (in competition with the trunk) or they are a bit out of proportion (to me) with the trunk (too much space between the bends) and need some cutting back but I don't know what the end plan is for this tree and I am not sure how these trees grow.
Anyway, I have several plums which I dug out of my Grandmothers as suckers, this tree has given me some inspiration for them :tu2:

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 9:38 am
by bodhidharma
Hi Paul, lovely tree. Any thoughts, well, no. Just more ramification to take it from lovely to stunning :tu:

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 6th, 2011, 12:06 pm
by Ozmad
Hi pjkatich
for me the main front hanging branch needs to come up more, following the line of the next branch on the left side of it. The first 2 branches on the main trunk i would remove to open the space up on the main trunk, this shows the main trunk off better.Also on the main hanging branch there is a near the top of it that comes straight out towards you, at the end of that branch the twig goes to the right. It needs to be shorten by at least half it's length. If it has a bud on the opposite side to it going the other way(to the right) it would really suit that branch. Other than that ramify, ramify, ramify. i have done a virtual on it, but it seems it doesn't what to post,I will keep playing around to see if i can load it

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 12:40 am
by pjkatich
astroboy76 wrote:i like it alot. do u have any pics of it in flower?
G'day astroboy, I appreciate you taking the time to comment on this tree.

Unfortunately, I don't have any recent photos of this tree in flower. Over the years, this particular bonsai has not been a dependable bloomer. However, there appears to be a good number of flower spurs on the tree this year. I'll post a few photos of the tree when it does flower.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 1:03 am
by pjkatich
Damian Bee wrote:Hi Paul,
Its great, I like the movement in the branches and the trunk with the deadwood, it gives the tree a wild and dramatic look :cool:
If I may, there is a bit too much going on with the branches (in competition with the trunk) or they are a bit out of proportion (to me) with the trunk (too much space between the bends) and need some cutting back but I don't know what the end plan is for this tree and I am not sure how these trees grow.
Anyway, I have several plums which I dug out of my Grandmothers as suckers, this tree has given me some inspiration for them :tu2:
Hi Damian,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this tree. I appreciate the constructive feedback very much.

In regards to your comments about the branches, yes, there is a bit of clutter. However, for Prunus bonsai this is not uncommon. Some of this is due to the growing habits of this particular species. Keep in mind that for Prunus species the main goal is to provide a branch structure that shows the flowers well. This means that you do not always adhere to the standard branching practices.

Good luck with your plums,

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 1:12 am
by pjkatich
bodhidharma wrote:Hi Paul, lovely tree. Any thoughts, well, no. Just more ramification to take it from lovely to stunning :tu:
Hey bodiharma,

Thank you for the positive feedback.

Unfortunately, with regards to ramification, this is probably as good as it will get. This species does not lend itself to very fine ramification. This is mainly due to the growing habits of this species. Even in the wild, they do not develop a very dense canopy.

Regards,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 1:27 am
by pjkatich
Ozmad wrote:Hi pjkatich
for me the main front hanging branch needs to come up more, following the line of the next branch on the left side of it. The first 2 branches on the main trunk i would remove to open the space up on the main trunk, this shows the main trunk off better.Also on the main hanging branch there is a near the top of it that comes straight out towards you, at the end of that branch the twig goes to the right. It needs to be shorten by at least half it's length. If it has a bud on the opposite side to it going the other way(to the right) it would really suit that branch. Other than that ramify, ramify, ramify. i have done a virtual on it, but it seems it doesn't what to post,I will keep playing around to see if i can load it
G'day Ozmad,

I appreciate you taking the time to do a virtual of this tree.

I think your vision has a lot of merit and I will take your suggestions into consideration as I move forward with this tree.

It's always good to get constructive feedback like this.

Thank you very much.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 3:49 am
by lennard
pjkatich wrote:
I think your vision has a lot of merit and I will take your suggestions into consideration as I move forward with this tree.


Cheers,
Paul
Very nice tree Paul. Do you have picture from the current left hand side?

I do like Ozmad's virt - makes the tree a little lighter.

Lennard

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 8th, 2011, 2:31 am
by pjkatich
lennard wrote:Very nice tree Paul. Do you have picture from the current left hand side?
I do like Ozmad's virt - makes the tree a little lighter.
G'day Lennard,

Thank you for taking the time to comment on my tree. I appreciate the compliment very much.

Here are a couple more photos from different angles.

In this group of photos, the tree is being turned counter clockwise from the original picture. This series shows the left side of the tree around to the back.
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Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 8th, 2011, 5:34 pm
by Damian Bee
Thanks for the tip on the prunus flowering Paul, I have an Apricot in a box which is a confusion of leaves at present, if you have time I will post it (or perhaps that would be better done in late Autumn here, August) as I am stumped with it at the moment :lost:
Any help is good help.

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: January 9th, 2011, 2:24 am
by pjkatich
Damian Bee wrote:Thanks for the tip on the prunus flowering Paul, I have an Apricot in a box which is a confusion of leaves at present, if you have time I will post it (or perhaps that would be better done in late Autumn here, August) as I am stumped with it at the moment :lost:
Any help is good help.
Damian,

I would be more than happy to help out if I can.

One thing I would recommend is looking at photos of established Prunus bonsai. This may help train your eye.

Good written information on the styling of Prunus species is a bit elusive. If you have access to a copy of Bonsai Techniques II by John Naka, you will find some short. but informative sections covering the styling of Ume bonsai.

A photo of the tree without leaves would offer the best opportunity to offer some constructive advise.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: February 27th, 2011, 12:27 am
by pjkatich
It looks like spring has arrived in my little corner of the world.

Here is a current photo of this plum tree in bloom.
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I hope you enjoy.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Prunus angustifolia

Posted: February 27th, 2011, 3:31 pm
by Damian Bee
PJ, that is a nice mantle that tree has :hooray:
When it comes time to shape up the Apricot I will post it up.
I really like that trunk movement. I can get my hands on John Naka II. Thanks for the tip :wave: