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No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 7:15 am
by Rowdy
I am currently down in country NSW visiting family.
I have a few trees growing in the groud here and i was going to cut them back while i had the chance.
But i forgot my cut paste.
Anybody got any suggestions for a replacement?
i was thinking PVA wood glue.
or maybe just leaving the cuts bare, but they are going to be big cuts.
My father is a floor sander so has a lot of wood sealants and polyurethane lying about, or is that type of stuff likely to harm the tree?

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 7:40 am
by Bougy Fan
Hey Rowdy vaseline will do as an emergency sealer.

Tony

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 7:43 am
by bodhidharma
Playdo works well as does non toxic wood filler. Also pva non toxic glue will work but i would stay away from the poly urethane.

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 8:00 am
by Damian Bee
Vas will melt in hot weather, (not that there is much of that about for the next few months).
PVA or acrylic wood glue is not so hot as it will deform (go gooey again) with moisture.
Playdough would be the best, Beeswax is also quite good followed by candle wax but I am not sure how the candle wax would go :reading:

Has anyone tried BLU-TAC before? or is it something you would never do :lost:

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 8:10 am
by kvan64
Natural clays are perfect for temporary sealing and can found naturally.
Cheers,
DK

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 8:23 am
by Paulneill
You can use the white stuff that bleeds from fig ( rubber trees) as cut paste. Just pull of a few leaves or prune a branch .

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 9:29 am
by kcpoole
Many people swear by not using Cut paste at all, so you could just clean the wounds and not seal them at all

Ken

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 9:47 am
by Pup
Selly,s no more gaps mixed with clay to stop the white colour.Or if you can get the wood colour no probs or straight clay.

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 10:28 am
by Ray
Damian Bee wrote:
Has anyone tried BLU-TAC before? or is it something you would never do :lost:
I've used blu-tac before with no ill effects to the tree, chewing gum also works, but tends to disappear, think ants/bugs like it...

If your going to carve the cuts at a later date, you could even paint over the cuts, it's not exactly pretty, but it will seal the cut if done correctly.

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 10:41 am
by Andrew E
kcpoole wrote:Many people swear by not using Cut paste at all, so you could just clean the wounds and not seal them at all

Ken
Veyr true. I tend not to use it on tree in training phases of growth. The tree forms a natural collar which 'shuts down' the cut area and produces the die back we see after pruning. If you don't seal the cut leave it longer (a stub) to account for any of the dieback and then come back later to clean the cuts up and then use the paste. The paste prevent drying out of the cut so the cut heals right there with little or no dieback. Of course it will depend on the tree, pines dieback more readily for eg, but if your still in the training phase and the cuts are at the back of the tree then it will have little impact on the end result.

Andrew

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 11:18 am
by Rowdy
The tree is a chinese elm
Because its still in the ground, i may just cut it off to a stub, then worry about cleaning it when i pull it out of the ground in the future.
I can leave an inch or two to die back on.

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 7:24 pm
by lennard
Koos Robbertse, the blind bonsaist and President of our Kai, just take some dirt and rub it into the wound when we go on a dig - he never had any problems doing that but I personally will not do it.

I use woodglue, tree sealer, modeling clay and sometimes even waterbase paint.

Lennnard

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 23rd, 2011, 10:01 pm
by Graeme
Spit on the cut and rub a hand full of dirt across it. Will seal the cut long enough for the cambium to start healing over. Or paint with black or brown water based paint.

Re: No cut paste

Posted: April 27th, 2011, 9:06 am
by Scott Roxburgh
lennard wrote:Koos Robbertse, the blind bonsaist and President of our Kai
:o :o :o