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Acer buergerianum

Posted: May 31st, 2011, 8:54 am
by Andew09
This is my very first Trident...

I picked it up from Tien out at Bonsai Sensation Nursery and potted it just the other night. I know i probably should have waited a little longer to repot but i was just too excited to get it into something a little more aesthetically pleasing than the black pot. Mind you this was my first time ever repotting so as you could imagine i was even more excited to do so.

The tree needs a bit of work, but come spring when the buds are swelling i'll do some ramification and start the beginning of what hopefully is going to be a really nice tree. There is also going to be some great ops for grafting and i'll need to get the scars cleaned up. All in all i'm really excited to learn some more advanced techniques on this tree. Images below for your (hopefully) delight.

I also got my mitts on a Japanese Maple, which i'll post later on.

Andy
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Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 9:49 pm
by Andew09
:bump:

Any style advice or comments?

Andy

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:00 pm
by kcpoole
Nice trunk :-)
Definitley a larger size tree there, and Nice taper from each section

I would be selecting the front view based on the nebari, and then picking the final branch placement from the many you have to pick from
Remove all the rest and Wire them to shape.
Clean up all the trunk chops well and apply putty to get the healing started

Ken

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:00 pm
by anttal63
V cut at the first 2 branches, sky is the limit from there and make hard wood cuttings out of the rest ! :tu: Do not waste time air layering any of this. :palm:

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:08 pm
by Craig
anttal63 wrote:V cut at the first 2 branches, sky is the limit from there and make hard wood cuttings out of the rest ! :tu: Do not waste time air layering any of this. :palm:

Andy, i'd agree with Anttal, low cut :yes:

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:14 pm
by Andew09
Thinking a cut so low would waste some good opportunities up top??

I'm assuming you mean the very frst two branches close to the nebari???? :lost:

Would that not be a waste of the trunk size and thickness?

A

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:15 pm
by Andew09
On the above anyone got any good precedents of what i'd be looking at?

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:20 pm
by Craig
:reading: the replies first :lost:
anttal63 wrote:sky is the limit from there and make hard wood cuttings out of the rest

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:20 pm
by anttal63
Andew09 wrote:On the above anyone got any good precedents of what i'd be looking at?
And what would that be ? the V cut or the hard wood cuttings :?: :lost:

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:24 pm
by Andew09
Sorry,

V Cut. Best way to do such on this trunk and to what point

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:33 pm
by Andew09
I was thinking thread grafting otherwise hence why i ask...

I've had no experience with hard-wood cuttings and such a large step is quite nerving... :reading: :lost:

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:37 pm
by anttal63
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saw drill and dremel to achieve it. then some root grafting in order to eventually get rid of the thicker ugly roots. Do you belong to a club ? where are you situated in melbourne ? do you need help ? 8-)

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:43 pm
by anttal63
Andew09 wrote:I was thinking thread grafting otherwise hence why i ask...

I've had no experience with hard-wood cuttings and such a large step is quite nerving... :reading: :lost:
if HWC are done well you will get 100% strike rate and end up with 1/2 dozen more trees to develope.
There is nothing nerving about chopping up a butt arse ugly trunk like this. sorry if that strikes a nerve. However this way you can grow 6 or 7 trees that will be far better than that will ever be. 8-)

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:57 pm
by Andew09
Ant,

I'm in St Kilda and have some help from a friend, a forum member, who has introduced me to the Bonsai Society of Victoria. I was going to take this tree to the next workshop day but wouldn't mind some more input from others. And yeah i'd love some help...

I'm relatively new to bonsai, in saying that i have a few but not until now, really trying to throw myself head strong into developing my skills.

I'd be keen to join a club but from what i gather, meetings are only every month or so, or am i way off the mark with this??

Butt ass ugly :oops: thought i had picked an ok trunk to work with :palm:

Andy

Re: Acer buergerianum

Posted: June 9th, 2011, 11:04 pm
by Craig
this might help you out a bit Andy, different months same seasons ,Hardwood cuttings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWM_VzWZ ... re=related