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A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 8:12 pm
by Svenster102
Hi there this is my second thread, Ive got some good advise from people from the first landscape I did.

This one is a bit bigger and more depth.

The plants probably need some wiring but its ok for now.

Let me know what you think.

Sven.

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Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 8:42 pm
by irish
Hi.

WoW, mate i think thats way cool :clap:

Wish i could do that with native Gums. :cool:

Regards.
Irish. :aussie:

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 9:08 pm
by hugh grant
great work mate :tu: youve done a really nice job. the trees could do with a little more development but that will come with time. really like the moss youve used, it looks like the long leafed variety that grows round the shady side of the house in the lawn and in the gardens at my place. the stream looks really good too.
i think this is a really nice little composition.

Hugh :D

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 9:17 pm
by Svenster102
Great thank you so much.

Thats EXACTLY what i was just thinking Irish. I grew up in Ferny Creek and spent a lot of time riding around the mountain. So I guess im trying to create a look close to a stream, next time I think Ill use ferns.

Can anyone else suggest a plant that you could use for that are there any types of gums you can use?

and thank you very much Hugh. I cant really figure out what its called but it grows at my place on rocks and just dirt. It seems to get bigger when theres more water and sparse dirt. You can also see it on the side of many roads up Mt D. Its actually very common it would be great if someone could tell me the name.

Ill update tommorow, be sure to check back I think you'll like the surprise. :?:

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 9:33 pm
by nealweb
Very nice!!! Awesome moss :clap: :tu: :yes:

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 10:07 pm
by Mitchell
Floored... :shock:

I would have to say I have never witnessed a more well presented, three dimension creek as that. Completely ignoring the trees present, that landscape deserves an award.

My only constructive critique and please take this as only a guide, make sure your next move is to start integrating and blending different types of moss/ferns.


Congrats mate,you should be proud of that. :) :tu:

Edit- are you planning on running a pump on it as a working stream?

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 10:23 pm
by Svenster102
Ahh bugger Mitchell you got it, yeah Im going to run a pump i was going to put up a youtube video with it working (when I get it to work)

But seriously thank you so much that means a lot coming form someone with your experience im flattered.

Sven.

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 10:37 pm
by Mitchell
And there we have unlocked the reason in which it looks so real, it is designed to carry and flow. I shall indeed remember this next time I scape a stream. :D
Thanks mate.

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 10:42 pm
by Svenster102
Thanks agian yes thats how it had to work, do you have any pictures of other composistions like mine? I mean wiht streams and water? Ive found it very hard to find anything on the net?

Mabey something you have made...

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 7:22 am
by paddles
Looks great... I like it... Did you take any photos during construction? I'd be interested in seeing how? you constructed the creek...

Thanks

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 12:37 pm
by craigw60
Hi Sven, You have had all the praise (well deserved), now its time for some criticism. Your trees in the setting seem to be very evenly spaced it would be much better if the spacings were less uniform. On the left side of the riverbed you have 4 trees and the number of trees should be uneven so 3 5 or 7 would be better, given the size of the tray I would go for 7.One last point, all the trees in your group are roughly the same size and it would look better if the sizes were uneven including one tree which stands head and shoulders above the rest.
These points that I make are the fundamentals of group settings in bonsai.
Keep up the good work
Craigw

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 1:37 pm
by Jamie
gday mate :D

this is a good start too! you have had some great advice, especially from craig. the odd number of treees will make it look more balanced, even numbers dont generally work aswell. thickness of the trees should vary somewhat like craig has said too. the thing with using buxus is that when they are confined they will be quite slow to thicken. shoot out quick but thicken slow.. so if you feel the need to change it up thats up to you but slow growing trees has its merits aswell, craig will agree with this.
if you are going for a gum look with the buxus then consider how some gums grow. they can be straight and tall until they get to the branches then they will have angles kicking around alot. I dont know how you will get severe angles in buxus as they can be a little bit of a bugger to bend as they are brittle. what you could do is get a few more, get them in a grow box or even better the ground, and individually grow the trees for the setting, craig actually put me onto that too, I have a beuatiful landscape tray but am not prepared to use it yet as my chinese elms I plan on going in are only in a seedling stage. elm take forever to thicken in a pot. similar to buxus. so patinece is key.

as for putting ferns and other rooted plants in as accents be careful as these can actually suck nutrients away from the trees you want to get the nutrients.

good luck :D

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 3:07 pm
by Craig
:gday: Sven, nice work mate, I have to ask what are your plans for a Pot/Container, i wouldn't think the wood will last forever,. Cheers mate :beer:

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 7:05 pm
by Svenster102
Thx for all the comments and I apperciate the constructive critism, I know i need to learn more about the trees. Mabey ill start playing with junipers as they are more flexible. I would love to get some trees in there like you guys have these ones are from chris at the nursery on york. Hes really good there but I have a lot to learn depeloping and shaping the trees.

Its a good idea criag to have a bigger one than all the rest I think Ill make another one and try agian. \\

Ill have to take some photos of making it, its pretty simple. Having said that im not sure how it will go in the long run as these are the first ones ive made like this.

As for the wood I dont know, like making them in wood mabey I could use treated or laquered wood? Making something from clay would be good but very hard. Wood is good or this kinda thing becuase its ealisy cut and screwed just dosnt look very nice. Plus rots obviously

Thanks agian for the kind words its very encouraging, and i really like the critism. I like to hear what more experienced people think I thinks thats the best way to learn.

Re: A New forest

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 7:50 pm
by Craig
Svenster102 wrote:As for the wood I dont know, like making them in wood mabey I could use treated or laquered wood? Making something from clay would be good but very hard. Wood is good or this kinda thing becuase its ealisy cut and screwed just dosnt look very nice. Plus rots obviously
:beer: Sven , maybe you could get a nice tray or something made by one of our local :flag: potters or what about going like Andrew has in this thread , viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8794&start=0 , Something to think about , Cheers mate :wave: