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Hi all, I think this is a desert Ash? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
It was collected around 4 or five weeks ago from a suburban block that was been totally demolished around the corner from Mum,s work.
She notified me of the demolition, so I went to have a look at the block of land and this was the result. Unfortunately by the time I arrived, this was the only tree worth collecting as the majority of the garden had already been trashed.
Once I got it home I removed the remaining soil and bare rooted it and then trimmed the roots. There were a number of feeder roots in close to the trunk.
I soaked it in seasol over night and then potted it into a poly box in a diatomite and pine bark mix (8 parts D to 2 parts PB). I forgot to take pics of this process, sorry!
In the last 2 weeks it has started to pop buds all over the stump from the base to the top where I chopped the trunk on collection.
I am surprised that the bark from the trunk chop cut has already started to roll over.
I potted the base of the trunk quite deep under the soil to aid the root growth/flare, and there is more taper under the soil surface.
It has a tiny bit of movement and taper, and whilst it is not stunning material, I hope to learn a lot about the species through it...I have my eye on some much nicer ones but wish to learn more about the species before I try my hand at collecting them.
Anyway, it was going to be toast, so I am glad I saved it. It gets to live and I get to learn...sounds fair to me!
Sorry for the poor quality pics, I am currently saving up for a decent camera so thanks for your patience! Cheers, Dario.

It looks like the Desert ash.

here is a link to a thread on my ash.viewtopic.php?f=129&t=4827&hilit=Ash&start=60

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8119&hilit=+Ash and one on ramification

Grant

Thanks for the links Grant Will be revisiting your "11 yrs from seed post" many times to learn more about this species.
Cheers, Dario.

Dario wrote:Thanks for the links Grant Will be revisiting your "11 yrs from seed post" many times to learn more about this species.
Cheers, Dario.

Hi Dario,

i will soon update the thread. I have repotted it into a new deeper, oval cream pot. i have also started working on the piece of nursery stock at the start of the thread and will be treating it differently styling and training wise.

Grant

Terrific Grant, I can't wait to see it in the new pot along with the nursery stock that you are styling and treating differently! I love this species and plan to work with it a lot in the future! I also have a couple more including one that is around 12 cm that I will post soon. I realise that you are extremely busy but I recall you mentioning having a mini ash?...when you get an opportunity I was hoping you may be able to share that as well please?
Anyway, I wish to thank you as these two links ...
viewtopic.php?f=129&t=4827&hilit=Ash&start=60
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8119&hilit=+Ash
...are what I am basing working this species on in terms of techniques/growing etc. And information on developing this species is hard to come by..so thanks once again, they are invaluable!!!
Dario.

Hi all, this ash has grown really well from a bare trunk after it was chopped back when collected.
Here are some pics of the growth this spring. As always, sorry for the picture quality and lack of a clear background. I decided to select one main leader instead of trying to incorporate both of them into a design. As a result I cut the trunk back further on an angle to hopefully help with an eventually tapered transition into the new trunk line.
I believe that most of this trees branches will be selected from the new trunk/leader, but have left quite a bit of lower growth at this stage as I wish to grow some of them out as sacrifices to help increase the taper in the lower trunk. Cheers, Dario.

Hi all, just a quick update to show the growth I had over spring and summer since collecting in August 2011.
I will leave it in the poly box for one more growing season but this spring I will bury the poly box about 10cm in the ground so the roots can escape and hopefully thicken the sacrife leader, so that the transition from the base to new trunk line is a little better.
I will also clean the trunk chop to aid the cambium in rolling over, and approach graft two of the existing lower shoots/small branches to it to help speed up the healing of the chop.
There are still a couple of leaves yet to drop and the sacrifice leader is currently around 1.5 metres tall.
I will make sure I kill the bloody ants this year as I had stacks of large scale that had a field day with this poor tree.
Cheers, Dario

Well done mate easy and fast to grow these baby's !!!

Hi Dario, mate if you concave cut the wound correctly , it'll just about heal over by this time next year. looking good

Its great to see these trees grow fast ( 1.5m ) im yet to have an Ash tree but will be digging one this year nice tree by the way in 3-5yrs it will be well on its way

Thanks Antonio and Craig
Yes it wasn't a nice cut to begin with and I will clean it up, but I will also aproach graft because there isn't nuch sap flow at the bottom of the cut.
This is also about learning new techniques for me. even without grafting it would take more than one season to close over from what I have seen with other ash that have been cut properly
Thanks for your input
Thanks Olivecrazy, yes they are a great species
Cheers, Dario

nup, i did one last year and nearly closed altogether, they grow quicker than you expect Dario. I wouldn't bother wasting your time grafting at all, as the new leader is in a perfect position to start rolling cambium into the newly carved out wound.

Thanks for your advice Craig but I don't consider it a waste of time.
Cheers, Dario

Dario wrote:Thanks for your advice Craig but I don't consider it a waste of time.
Cheers, Dario

It'll be good practise for you.

[quote="Dario"]Thanks Antonio and Craig
Yes it wasn't a nice cut to begin with and I will clean it up, but I will also aproach graft because there isn't nuch sap flow at the bottom of the cut.

If you are worried about the bottom of the cut, when you clean it out and concave it as Craig suggested, make the bottom of the cut a narrow v shape down the trunk so the cut looks like an upside down tear drop. This will also aid quicker healing, and the way they grow, one year should be fine.

Nice trunk. Got good taper now.

Tony