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Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 3:42 pm
by toohey
Hi All,
I am wiondering which Junipers make the best bonsai if you could only get one (I know they all do, but I am looking for advice on qualities as I would like to purchase older more expensive stock)
Thanks,
Michael

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 3:58 pm
by Andrew F
Squamata.

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 4:01 pm
by Handy Mick
Michael if you are not going to do the styling yourself, then i would suggest the one that appeals to you the most. :lost:

Mick

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 4:30 pm
by Mojo Moyogi
In my experience, there are few answers to this question Toohey.

Best if you are patient: Shimpaku.

Balance of best result and easiset/fastest: J. squamata 'Prostrata'

Worth Considering: J.squamata 'Meyerii' and 'Holger', J.sabina,

Challenging: J. rigida (Needle Juniper)

Don't bother: J. squamata 'Blue Rug/Carpet' and 'Blue Star', J. conferta (Shore Juniper), J. chinensis 'Spartan' and 'Pyramidalis', any J. chinensis cultivar that has open, leggy foliage (there are lots like that!)

Cheers,
Mojo

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 5:04 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
Shimpaku
"Itoigawa"
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or

"kishu"
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Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 5:10 pm
by GavinG
Mojo - why is rigida challenging, and what's the problem with conferta? I haven't seen good examples of conferta, I'm just wondering why. Rigida is done in Japan, with thick cut-back lots-of-shari trunks. Haven't seen many in Aus.

Just curious, not stirring.

Gavin

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 5:42 pm
by Dumper
that one! lol

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 6:53 pm
by toohey
out of Squamata & Procumbens, any preferences

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 28th, 2011, 7:49 pm
by Webos
I have 4 Holgers.. Strong growers, take an absolute beating without showing a sign of trouble. Seem to thrive in any position. Unfortunately, not the beautiful tight foliage that the shimpaku has. More of a loose, open foliage. Great tree for a beginner to work on.

It really is up to personal preference. Look up some of the varieties on the net and decide which one you'll go for

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 29th, 2011, 8:57 pm
by Matthew
defiantly shimpaku.love the mature foliage when constanly pinched .I think mojo is saying that you will be waiting around for awhile with rigida to mature. i havent seen a great one in this country yet and i know some japanese graft shimpaku to rigida trunks as they can be very impressive. i still stand with shimpaku however having recenty grown squamata they make nice trees and are more easily avaiable .

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 29th, 2011, 9:34 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
toohey wrote:out of Squamata & Procumbens, any preferences
Procumbens

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 29th, 2011, 9:48 pm
by toohey
Scott, can you tell me why?

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: September 29th, 2011, 9:48 pm
by toohey
Scott, can you tell me why?

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: November 11th, 2011, 7:37 am
by Scott Roxburgh
toohey wrote:Scott, can you tell me why?
Sorry mate, I missed your post.

I say procumbens because it looks more refined. I do not like Squamata that much, it reminds me of 'mallsai'.

Re: Junipers - which one?

Posted: November 11th, 2011, 3:56 pm
by Jamie
shimpaku straight out!!

squamata is ok but mature foliage suits larger trees.

procumbens is pretty good too.

conferta are very hard to keep a neat outline and grow straggly.

virginia, and these types are etremely open foliage and coarse.