Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
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Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
I thought it was time to start a post on my Jaboticaba which I bought from a nursery in April 2016. I immediately cut the straight trunk off and the first branch became the new leader. No before photos, sorry.
The tree has bad reverse taper (which I have noted in other Jaboticaba I have seen), so in September 2016, I decided to try thread grafting in a sacrifice branch.
Three days ago, I finally cut the thread graft on the roots side. I had half ringbarked the donor branch a couple of weeks ago to help the graft adapt. Definitely feeding off the trunk more than the donor branch now:
The tree has bad reverse taper (which I have noted in other Jaboticaba I have seen), so in September 2016, I decided to try thread grafting in a sacrifice branch.
Three days ago, I finally cut the thread graft on the roots side. I had half ringbarked the donor branch a couple of weeks ago to help the graft adapt. Definitely feeding off the trunk more than the donor branch now:
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
Continued...
I have had fun learning on this tree, and as you can see my styling skills leave a lot to be desired, but the tree has surprised me with what it will tolerate and also its growth rate (Jaboticabas are supposed to be slow growing). Constructive comments welcome, and thanks for looking.
With all the new whips growing, a couple of weeks ago I decided to do more grafting.I have had fun learning on this tree, and as you can see my styling skills leave a lot to be desired, but the tree has surprised me with what it will tolerate and also its growth rate (Jaboticabas are supposed to be slow growing). Constructive comments welcome, and thanks for looking.
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
Impressed that you've had a go at the thread graft a couple of times and not only that, been successful, congrats!
If you can't get that sacrifice branch to do it's job, would you consider a ground layer?
If you can't get that sacrifice branch to do it's job, would you consider a ground layer?
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
Ditto on Mel's comment, congrats on the graft success.
Good detailed progression so thanks for the trouble you have gone too.
Good detailed progression so thanks for the trouble you have gone too.
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A bit early to say the second one has taken! Ask me again in 18 monthsmelbrackstone wrote:Impressed that you've had a go at the thread graft a couple of times and not only that, been successful, congrats!
Yep, a ground layer it would have to be, but I would lose a nice twist in the trunk and not so sure the first bend would remain where I like it.If you can't get that sacrifice branch to do it's job, would you consider a ground layer?
Thanks for the comments.
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
i was thinking more putting the ground layer at the level of the graft, which should leave the most powerful part of the trunk the start of the lovely curve...
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
An update on this one. Only a month has passed, but the sacrifice branch is growing well. I thought I would post a photo showing the growth rate of this tree.
On the left, as it was in August last year, just after hard chop. On the right is the tree 10 days ago. Not bad growth in 6 months...
On the left, as it was in August last year, just after hard chop. On the right is the tree 10 days ago. Not bad growth in 6 months...
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Time for an update on the Jaboticaba
It's been a bit up and down for this tree since I last posted. I decided to wire tertiary branches for movement and in the process damaged both the approach grafts and the new thread graft, so these have failed. I then partially defoliated in an attempt to reduce leaf size and ended up with a bare tree for a long time, followed by regrowth only at the tips! Quite probably did this at the wrong time of the year (March).
Here it is in March: The tree has also been moved twice so, all in all, lots of stressors.
On a good note, the grafted sacrifice branch is doing great. Probably too well; it might be time to prune it back a little.
Any suggestions are welcome
Here it is in March: The tree has also been moved twice so, all in all, lots of stressors.
On a good note, the grafted sacrifice branch is doing great. Probably too well; it might be time to prune it back a little.
Any suggestions are welcome
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
Hey there. Any update on this one?
Pretty interested in this species
Thanks
DD
Pretty interested in this species
Thanks
DD
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Hi DD,
The tree is growing well. I tried a couple more thread and approach grafts which didn't take. I will post up some pics for you in the next few days.
The tree is growing well. I tried a couple more thread and approach grafts which didn't take. I will post up some pics for you in the next few days.
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
Thanks for the info Redsonic.
I've had an unlabeled "throw out table" purchase identified as Jaboticaba recently so I'm looking at putting in a VERY sheltered place this winter as all growers I've sen here are from Queensland and I'm in Goulburn NSW - we can do snow here in winter.
Thanks again for the progression,
Jan.
I've had an unlabeled "throw out table" purchase identified as Jaboticaba recently so I'm looking at putting in a VERY sheltered place this winter as all growers I've sen here are from Queensland and I'm in Goulburn NSW - we can do snow here in winter.
Thanks again for the progression,
Jan.
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Re: Long suffering Jaboticaba progression
An update on this tree, as promised. Aside from the attempted grafting mentioned above, the Jaboticaba has been largely left to its own devices since I last posted. It has yellowing of some leaves, which I put down to sunburn, as it is in full sun in a hot courtyard now (previously was against a north facing wall in partial shade).
I suspect there will be something drastic in the future for this tree. It is overdue for repotting, which I will do this Autumn, and I suspect I will have to do a ground layer and hard pruning of the straight, bare branches.
From a cultivation point of view, I have found these trees to love water but maybe not hot afternoon sun. I have lost 2 repotting them so go a bit more carefully on the root pruning now. I have no idea how they would go in Golborne Jan, but they are a lovely tree and I enjoy just having a couple around. They seem quite pest resistant, and as previously noted, grow well here in Brisbane.
I suspect there will be something drastic in the future for this tree. It is overdue for repotting, which I will do this Autumn, and I suspect I will have to do a ground layer and hard pruning of the straight, bare branches.
From a cultivation point of view, I have found these trees to love water but maybe not hot afternoon sun. I have lost 2 repotting them so go a bit more carefully on the root pruning now. I have no idea how they would go in Golborne Jan, but they are a lovely tree and I enjoy just having a couple around. They seem quite pest resistant, and as previously noted, grow well here in Brisbane.
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A sad update on this one. It suffers no more....
As seen in the last photos, it was overdue for repotting and looking unhealthy. I ended up killing it by not watering it thoroughly enough. I was watering it often, but not soaking the root ball, I believe. Oh well, a learning experience
As seen in the last photos, it was overdue for repotting and looking unhealthy. I ended up killing it by not watering it thoroughly enough. I was watering it often, but not soaking the root ball, I believe. Oh well, a learning experience
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