I have had this Cedar for a long time now and have been working it on and off for 13 years. The tree has some age but the exact is unknown. It is one of those trees that you work on and then put away and forget about. I have been going through my trees of late, checking for wire that i had forgotten and this was a candidate. Not often you see a Cedar with wire scars Anyway, it was a good opportunity to work this tree and to make the inquiry to the more learned of you, ..is it really a Lebanon. The tree has a few gaps yet but i have time. It could be a new leader selection soon but no hurry, the tree has never been in a pot but maybe next year
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Thanks Bodhi, looking good. It looks more like a Libani than an Atlantica to me but I wouldn't class myself as learned. Qucik web search suggests that there is botanical debate about whether the atlantica is a subspecies of cedrus libani anyway. I reckon I have seen trees that look like yours labelled as brevifolia which is definitely a subspecies of libani.
I would be happy with libani as an ID, the best way to distinguish is cones being larger on libani (to12cm) than atlantica(to9cm), brevifolia has a much shorter stiffer needle. Now to the tree...
It does look like you had my kind of fun with it. It really is a beautiful Cedar, I don't normally like those lazy curves but it works. What clashes is the apex so a new leader would be a good idea, or even ditch it altogether & give it a flat top. I still wouldn't knock it back if given to me
Tomorrows looks even nicer, the bark is really something special.
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Hi Bodhi , i did reply and it took off into cyber space . I would have to say its a Lebiana .I have dozens of Atlantica/Atlas and Deodora/Deodara , and they all have the blue hue about them . I have yet to actually see a Bonsai Lebiana , but all the picks i have seen the foliage is always green , not having the blue hue the other 2 cedars have .
Cant help with the growth habit but i would assume it would be very similar to the Atlas Cedar , producing a short shoot up to 100mm with rosette's in the first year then alongating the following season . The Deodara alongates and produces a long shoot that has buds buds or a very poor excuse for a rosette which alongates as a side shoot in the same season when the main shoot slows down .
I like this tree, i'm very partial to all cedars .
alpineart wrote:I like this tree, i'm very partial to all cedars .
Thanks for the info Alpine. I to, believe it is Libani and the foliage is tiny and very compact. As always the camera gives it no substance whatso ever as it has huge potential
Craig wrote:I'm not positive but i believe this cedar was libani
Thanks for posting that info Craig
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If you go to the Melbourne Botanical Gardens there is a very large Lebanese cedar in the ground and I would say it is 100 to 150 years old.
You can walk right in amongst it and you truly know when you are in its presence that it is a Libani. It is a very intense dark green whereas atlantica nearly always have a blue hue. When I used to grow cedars by the thousands you would occasionally get a green atlantica from seed; which is really just a throw back to the Libani.
Anyway, it was a good opportunity to work this tree and to make the inquiry to the more learned of you, ..is it really a Lebanon. 
The tree has a few gaps yet but i have time. It could be a new leader selection soon but no hurry, the tree has never been in a pot but maybe next year 
, i can't help with a pos id sorry.
