Buddleja saligna yamadori beautiful nebari.

[lennard]

Hi again Lennard

Another great progression mate. I missed it originally.

I would have chose C/D for the front in the original post, and this seems to equate to b in your recent post. I agree it shows good taper and nebari. You might not see the carving, but you could actually carve a little more and improve the taper again. Nice to have options and you could certainly work with a couple if you choose.

Nice virt and a good place to aim.

Once again nice work.

Best Regards

Tony

Thanks.

I will reset the branches soon to fit the new front. Luckily this trees take bending very well and they grow really fast. In nature these trees do slow down because of the lack of water, but under cultivation they grow right through the colder months of the year.

Referring to the virt- it would be better to make the apex/top rounded because older trees don't have a pointed apex?

Will update soon.

lennard

[MattA]

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The 2 trunks are connected below the current soil level but the one on the left has died.

[lennard]

The 2 trunks are connected below the current soil level but the one on the left has died.

Not 100% sure but I believe you have a Buddleja salviifolia. There is not much information on the species except that it is a "new" plant and there are no pictures of bonsai on them.

I do believe you could try it as a bonsai- but the most important thing of these older Buddleja is that there is a believe that the roots and the branches are connected by "veins". If you cut the root close to the trunk the 'vein" will die as well as the branches that they feed.

Here in RSA we have a very high success rate when the trees are dug at the warmest part of the year. Here is one I have dug end January 2011 and it is already budding out:

february 2011.jpg

I would say: "Go ahead and dig the tree!" (They also grow from cuttings - to be safe!)

(Will respond on your pm soon.)

Lennard

[MattA]

The 2 trunks are connected below the current soil level but the one on the left has died.

Not 100% sure but I believe you have a Buddleja salviifolia. There is not much information on the species except that it is a "new" plant and there are no pictures of bonsai on them.

I do believe you could try it as a bonsai- but the most important thing of these older Buddleja is that there is a believe that the roots and the branches are connected by "veins". If you cut the root close to the trunk the 'vein" will die as well as the branches that they feed.

Here in RSA we have a very high success rate when the trees are dug at the warmest part of the year. Here is one I have dug end January 2011 and it is already budding out:

february 2011.jpg

I would say: "Go ahead and dig the tree!" (They also grow from cuttings - to be safe!)

(Will respond on your pm soon.)

Lennard

Hi Lennard,

Thanks for the ID, I dug the clump last september and put this piece back in the ground at home, 2 other smaller pieces were potted up & are doing well.

It is interesting you say about the tree having 'veins' & there interconnectivity, this is not unlike Wisteria and a number of other species i am working with. Does it work in reverse as well (ie if you cut a branch too heavily the root also dies)? Does this lead to extensive rot as with Wisteria?

Matt

[lennard]

Hi Lennard,

Thanks for the ID, I dug the clump last september and put this piece back in the ground at home, 2 other smaller pieces were potted up & are doing well.

It is interesting you say about the tree having 'veins' & there interconnectivity, this is not unlike Wisteria and a number of other species i am working with. Does it work in reverse as well (ie if you cut a branch too heavily the root also dies)? Does this lead to extensive rot as with Wisteria?

Matt

I believe you can cut the branch as long as you allow the tree to re-bud on that specific vein. If not the vein will die back into the roots(That's why I believe with heavy root cutback you will have to reduce the top as well for new roots to form). This what is happening here on my Buddleja:

januarie 2011 virt vein.jpg

The red arrow indicate the highest/last branch on the vein. If I cut it and keep others from sprouting the purple indicated area will die back and become part of the deadwood area of the tree.

Lennard

[lennard]

An update:

buddleja Februarie 2012 verklein.jpg

The tree is coming along nicely.

I have extended the deadwood area right into the soil because the bark died below the lowest two branches.

I am still working on the branches and I will have to think about potting it very soon. Any thoughts on a pot for this one?

Lennard

[Craig]

nice progress Lennard, good to see your still here mate .

I have extended the deadwood area right into the soil

make sure you treat it or thats where you may get some rotting starting,.

[lennard]

Thanks Graig.

Yes, I am still here. I got promoted in two departments and you know about the saying of new brooms.

Things have settled down now so I can do again what I love most: growing things.

I will keep my eyes on the deadwood. Luckily this tree's wood is very hard and my climate does not promote rotting of wood. I will plant the tree high enough in the new pot to prevent water from gathering in the problem areas.

Some guys have used lime sulfur to treat the wood but I don't like the bleached color of the deadwood. Some guys use woodglue mixed with water to prevent the wood from rotting.

Luckily I got some driftwood pieces of this species so I will experiment first.

Thanks for the reply.

(Will update on some of the other trees soon.)

Lennard

[Craig]

Some guys have used lime sulfur to treat the wood but I don't like the bleached color of the deadwood. Some guys use woodglue mixed with water to prevent the wood from rotting

I'm sure you know about mixing ink with lime sulphur to darken the colour,but how about this one; something i picked up from H. Harrington, he used instant coffee and painted it onto the deadwood to give him the effect he wanted. I have talked with him about it and also tried it out , it does work, you need to give it time to soak and stain the wood before it gets wet, I'm going to start experimenting a little with it.Give it a try sometime

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[lennard]

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Thanks for the link.

Any thoughts on a pot for this one?

I will really have to repot this tree into a bonsai pot before the end of the month because I want to set the branches in their final positions before they get too thick. From the time I started working on the tree I envisaged the tree in a round, blue hues, running glaze pot.

Most people will advise a brownish square pot with feet and a lip and some detail on the sides for a masculine trunk like this?

I have virted the tree into a square pot:

buddleja with pot.jpg

What do you think?

Lennard