Cascade cedar

treeman · Post by **treeman** » March 5th, 2012, 11:15 am

Ok, here is an attempt at a cascade style blue cedar. This was grafted then planted in the ground for about 6 years, lifted and rewired and back in the ground for another 2 years then lifted and potted 2 years ago. I thought it need a head so I aproached grafted one last spring. It looks like it might have succeeded?
This tree has been a bit of a head scratcher for me. Let me know your ideas for styling and be ruthless!

Front

Graft

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Close up of falling ''branch''

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From the side

The Hacker · Post by **The Hacker** » March 5th, 2012, 11:53 am

Hi Treeman

That look's like it will turn into a very nice cascade has some very nice movement in the trunk,

Regard's

The Hacker

Damian Bee · Post by **Damian Bee** » March 5th, 2012, 11:55 am

Love the movement on the trunkline, I would like to see more taper to the trunk but it looks as though you are working on that

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » March 5th, 2012, 12:03 pm

Hi treeman,
Fantastic movement in that trunk, I am a little uncomfortable with the front view where you might think that there is a doughnut in the trunk.
Perhaps this loop would be much better with an additional bend halfway up the main trunk this would allow the viewer to follow the trunkline.

Virt 1.jpg

this would change the doughnut to a

but I think will give you more options for selecting a nice front.
I think it would be an excellent tree to present at one of Hiro's workshops in July

Damian Bee · Post by **Damian Bee** » March 5th, 2012, 12:11 pm

Hiro in July

Craig · Post by **Craig** » March 5th, 2012, 12:24 pm

Hi Treeman, Personally since you have done a nice job ground growing this tree over the last years, i would very much like to see it go back into the ground to develop more. More time in ground will give you more mature bark for one, and an increase in trunk girth..i'd also be looking at more movement in the lower trunk,

Mojo Moyogi · Post by **Mojo Moyogi** » March 5th, 2012, 12:29 pm

Hi Treeman, any chance of getting a pic of the side view with the whole tree in the frame. I think there might be a potential front there.

Cheers,
Mojo

DavidN · Post by **DavidN** » March 5th, 2012, 12:34 pm

How about Boon workshop in May at the convention!!!

David

Tiny trees · Post by **Tiny trees** » March 5th, 2012, 2:22 pm

Tahts a lovely bonsai.

treeman · Post by **treeman** » March 5th, 2012, 4:54 pm

Damian Bee wrote:Love the movement on the trunkline, I would like to see more taper to the trunk but it looks as though you are working on that

Yeah Damian That lower branch is not going anywhere just yet

treeman · Post by **treeman** » March 5th, 2012, 5:01 pm

Gerard wrote:Hi treeman,
Fantastic movement in that trunk, I am a little uncomfortable with the front view where you might think that there is a doughnut in the trunk.
Perhaps this loop would be much better with an additional bend halfway up the main trunk this would allow the viewer to follow the trunkline.
Virt 1.jpg
this would change the doughnut to a but I think will give you more options for selecting a nice front.
I think it would be an excellent tree to present at one of Hiro's workshops in July

Hi Gerard, Yes I thought about Hiro too but I've got a nice shimpaku raft I want him to have a look at.
As for the doughnut, you really can't see that when you're looking at the tree.
Nice sketch. Thats kinda what I want.

treeman · Post by **treeman** » March 5th, 2012, 5:08 pm

Craig wrote:Hi Treeman, Personally since you have done a nice job ground growing this tree over the last years, i would very much like to see it go back into the ground to develop more. More time in ground will give you more mature bark for one, and an increase in trunk girth..i'd also be looking at more movement in the lower trunk,

I would also like more movement in the lower trunk Craig but these things are very brittle much more than pines so with the raffia and the iron bar and the wire and the.........

What about forming a lower branch with the one on the right side of the graft and faning that out midway down the trunk? The branch on the outside curve of Gerard's doughnut- to the right of the wire I think is comming off. Man it's

hard styling a tree with a keyboard

Craig · Post by **Craig** » March 5th, 2012, 6:34 pm

If this were my Cedar i would be introducing a bend where i show in the virt. there are quite alot of ways to go about it treeman.

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MattA · Post by **MattA** » March 5th, 2012, 10:33 pm

Hey Grant,

You have a really lovely cedar in the making there, lots of movement thru the upper trunk & a head start by ground growing.

My

the lower trunk needs some movement, even a slight curve would be enough. I disagree about being brittle, I have found cedars to be very flexible to a point. I would use screws to create an anchor point at the top & bottom of this section, you can apply some movement & tie off then tighten a little every now & then, this would take longer but less hassle than raffia & wire etc.

Matt

treeman · Post by **treeman** » March 6th, 2012, 9:05 am

With all your

's thrown in---- I will bend---- but I must wait till I can cut off the graft

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