This is on of several Red Pines that were collected about 2 years ago . Unfortunately the before pics were taken with a 14 mp camera and wont upload onto this site . No i'm too old and too busy to learn how to re-size pics for a topic.

These were snapped with the old camera and are not the best but it give a general idea of the tree i'm looking for
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.Natural and free-form,
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why , because i have never seen a Norway pine bonsai and the reason why is they don't bend .
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The whole tree is one of Pup's "Oh bugger" moments waiting to happen . They are as brittle as a match stick and yes a 5-10 degree bend and they snap .I have tried to use these in the past , but too many breakages put them on the must do table .These do back bud but they also drop branches as the tree grows being apical only growers . Anyway its a starter as they all are and can only improve over time , something i hope i have for a while longer if i stop being a throttle jockey

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Cheers Alpineart
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