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Acer Japonicum Anticontifolium

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Hi fella's this is a Fern Leaf or Full Moon Maple , dug from the ground yesterday . It was seriously pot bound when planted and the roots have grafted themselves to the base .Its about 350mm at the widest point of the base with over lapping chunky roots veneered together .I have trimmed it back to around 200mm above pot soil level and 300mm below ground level .Still has plenty of feeder roots underneath .
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My question is "what is the under stock" on a Japonicum? . Will trident maple seedlings root graft onto Acer Japonicum ? I intend to side graft and thread graft the whips if they are compatable. Failing compatability i will have to paint hormone powder on instead
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Hi Alpine,

I grafted thousands of maples. Acer japonicum Aconitifoliumis grafted on Acer palmatum. So from everything below the graft there might appear some "normal" Japanese. maple leaves. Just rub them of.

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Chris Sirre wrote:Hi Alpine,

I grafted thousands of maples. Acer japonicum Aconitifoliumis grafted on Acer palmatum. So from everything below the graft there might appear some "normal" Japanese. maple leaves. Just rub them of.

Cheers,

Chris
Hi Chris , Japanese maple seedlings only as root grafts or either Japanese/Trident .Cheers Alpine
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Well after the advice from Chris i went ahead and thread grafted a few Japanese Maple whips onto the trunk base .I simply drilled a hole 3mm in diameter and inserted the whips until nice and snug then sealed the top and "Bobs you uncle" . It will either work or not that for sure .
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I used 14 uniform whips , so we will see how they take . Cheers Alpine
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gday mate :D i cant see why the root grafts wont take, it should work well, how this is the trunk on this beast? i was a little confused by your first post :)

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[quote="Jamie"]gday mate :D i cant see why the root grafts wont take, it should work well, how this is the trunk on this beast? i was a little confused by your first post :)

jamie :D[/quote

Hi Jamie , must be a typo here somewhere .This is the same trunk as dug from the garden , after potting up with the whips attached . No good showing the whole tree again as you wouldn't see the little seedlings . The base was viod in many areas of roots for a half decent Narebri hence the positions of the whips .

The base still has empty areas but to drill through the trunk i would need a 120mm long 3mm drill bit!!! so i may set some inarch grafts later on . Just dug another Japanese Maple Atropurpurium with a 120mm base needs the same treatment so its into that one tomorrow . Cheers Alpine
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hi mate :D

cool, sounds good, i had a typo myself as i was wondering how thick the trunk is :oops: 120mm is a good size trunk mate :D i look forward to seeing the tree in a couple of years with some good ramification :D

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Now your confusing me ,"Not hard for an old bloke" the trunk on this one is about 100mm as shown in the last pics the base is around 200mm where i'm trying the root grafts . Below that it is a 250mm -300mm solid mass {Ugly as sin} as the pot bound tree has fused together roots and all . The tree dug today is similar with a 120mm trunk and oversize base as above .Now if your not confused i am .Cheers Alpine
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sorry pal :lol:

i think i get it all now :? :lol: ;) all good!
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Another update , this full moon maple has excepted the Japanese maple thread grafts very well .No need to fuse any more as the original rootstock has produced very good roots also .
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A quick trim of the longer roots and its potted up for another season
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.Next year i will reduce the base by half and rework the roots ,
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if necessary add a few more threads to improve what i loose in the base chop .Some serious sunburn has damaged 1 side of the trunk, i guess i will have to carve it like an old damaged maple .Cheers Alpineart
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hey alpine,

how is this plant progressing?

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Hi Paul B , this and many more dried out when i had the bike accident in November and never made it .My wife wasn't aware of the watering requirements for the larger tree's , 3 days in hospital and another week laid up before i could get out side and water correctly has seen trailer loads taken to the tip .All up probably 500 tree's and trainers were lost . A couple of working bee's saw 200 plants and trainers placed into the ground back in December so i managed to salvage 60 % of my collection .

Its been a real battle looking after this amount of stock but now i have plenty of empty pots to start again . Back off to hospital today as there is a drama with the steel work , you could say i have a few loose screws or re-fractured which means an operation to remove or rectify the problem ."These things are meant to try us" and try i do .

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