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No idea what species this is but looks hectic!

Post by MoGanic »

Check out the trunks on this monster!

Thinking it will die if I attempt to move it, but it simply cant stay where it is!

Perhaps a raft? With other little tree's! (Or.. and correct me if impossible.. but what if I grew some ficus over it?).

Also a species id would be nice :).
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Hey Mo,

A pic of the leaves would help with ID, at the moment it looks like any multi trunked shrub/tree, which is more than a few :reading:

I really like the look of the material itself, regardless of species I think it has heaps of potential as a raft if you can dig it & get it to survive..

Good luck.

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First thing i sort of when i looked at this tree is a raft style bonsai :tu: :tu: if i found this it would be in my back yard right now :shifty: :shifty: :shifty: :shifty: it has alot of potential i would say it will have good roots coming out of the base to good find :hooray:
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Dig dig dig now :lol: :lol: :lol: if it was me i would dig it up an do something like this i all ways get keen when i see material like this lol
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MattA wrote:Hey Mo,

A pic of the leaves would help with ID, at the moment it looks like any multi trunked shrub/tree, which is more than a few :reading:

I really like the look of the material itself, regardless of species I think it has heaps of potential as a raft if you can dig it & get it to survive..

Good luck.

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I shall get a pic of the leaves tomorrow, was far too dark and although my camera would cope - I am severely against walking into spiderwebs at night! :oops:



Yeah I also thought a raft would do very well :) I'll get a better pic tomorrow but I'm really worried about messing this up and killing the tree - it has definitely got some deep roots though!
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Olivecrazy wrote:Dig dig dig now :lol: :lol: :lol: if it was me i would dig it up an do something like this i all ways get keen when i see material like this lol
Will now be a good time!? Also, I haven't a pot wide enough for this! (And wont have for a few weeks if not months... superbly broke...)
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Greetings,
Tee-shirt and shorts in Brisvagas today. Just to rub it in.
If the red flower in the photo is from the multi trunk, it looks like a hibiscis. Pretty flowers but very soft wood and big leaves. They are used as garden plants in the tropics and I have not seen one as a bonsai.
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MoGanic wrote:
Olivecrazy wrote:Dig dig dig now :lol: :lol: :lol: if it was me i would dig it up an do something like this i all ways get keen when i see material like this lol
Will now be a good time!? Also, I haven't a pot wide enough for this! (And wont have for a few weeks if not months... superbly broke...)
Just head down to your local fruit shop and you might be able to find a styro-foam box big enough, there usually friendly enough and let you take them if you ask, iv only been charged once for them but it was only 15c

i agree with with Bruce that it is a Hibiscus.

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bonsaibruce wrote:Greetings,
Tee-shirt and shorts in Brisvagas today. Just to rub it in.
If the red flower in the photo is from the multi trunk, it looks like a hibiscis. Pretty flowers but very soft wood and big leaves. They are used as garden plants in the tropics and I have not seen one as a bonsai.
Happy bonsai,
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Nah that flower is from one of the tree's surrounding it, it's not a flowering tree far as I know, has pine type leaves (small and sharp) and quite sure is an evergreen...

AHHHH stuff it I'll take pics now.. **goes outside**

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hugh grant wrote:
MoGanic wrote:
Olivecrazy wrote:Dig dig dig now :lol: :lol: :lol: if it was me i would dig it up an do something like this i all ways get keen when i see material like this lol
Will now be a good time!? Also, I haven't a pot wide enough for this! (And wont have for a few weeks if not months... superbly broke...)
Just head down to your local fruit shop and you might be able to find a styro-foam box big enough, there usually friendly enough and let you take them if you ask, iv only been charged once for them but it was only 15c

i agree with with Bruce that it is a Hibiscus.

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Just wondering also what kind of dirt I should use to repot it?
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:gday: , it's pretty hard to tell but it looks alot like Melaleuca (maybe incana) foliage, not too sure :lost: .

I think if your wanting to dig this big'un up then you may want to spend some time beforehand pruning it , so as to encorage backbudding ( if it backbuds at all ) and chase the foliage back closer to the parts of the trunks you would most likely keep to train as bonsai.A positive ID would be fairly useful aswell.. No real point digging a tree up that has foliage too far from the areas needed. good luck
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No idea what it is mo, but a nice open Bonsai soil mix to pot it in.

Get a Poly box or 2 and a few bags of mix before you dig it up so you are ready.

If you are able to leave where it is till spring wil be good too. Regardless of the species, I prefer to dig then or late winter.

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kcpoole wrote:No idea what it is mo, but a nice open Bonsai soil mix to pot it in.

Get a Poly box or 2 and a few bags of mix before you dig it up so you are ready.

If you are able to leave where it is till spring wil be good too. Regardless of the species, I prefer to dig then or late winter.

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Thinking I might start trimming back to encourage some back-budding. Also the section towards the base seemed not to be getting ANY light at all, so I cleared up some of the other branches in the way to let more sun get to the more basal structures. Some of the wood down there is dead though, might make some nice.. nebari? I think they're called?... But definitely some good living wood there. And I noticed a bunch of foliage off the right side 'trunks' which will hopefully backbud well. For the time being, this baby's staying put. Thanks for the advice Ken! :)
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Hi Mo,

I've been having a bit of a read of the post that you have made.
While it is easily seen that you have a lot of enthusiasm, may I be as bold as to suggest slowing down just a little?

There are a lot of questions you have been asking, re when to dig, what tree is this, what type of soil, when is the best is time to...???
These are all good and fair questions, but I personally feel that you would benefit greatly by attending your local bonsai club and just chatting with the members.
There are plenty of good clubs around vic, drop by one and ask as many questions as you can, from as many people as you can.
You will learn a lot from reading (even on-line), but there is nothing like face to face contact with other enthusiasts and by actually trying out different things. you learn a lot by doing.
Once you get some of the basics under your belt, your journey through bonsai will become a lot easier.

It’s very easy to kill a tree by applying the wrong techniques, or even kill it by applying the right ones at the wrong time.
Take your time because with bonsai patience really is the best way.

Just my :2c:
Good luck with your trees.

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