Elms wonderful Elms...Ulmus Procera

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aussiedamo wrote:i to love this species! although mine is a little crook i think at the moment....... :(

it went a bit variegated and then we went on a week holiday and its a little worse.
will get some pics up asoon as i find camera.
hopefully you can help bodhi???
Post a pic and we will see. Consider an immediate repot into a free draining mix if it is that sick. Last time i saw mine struggling was when it was totally pot bound. I repotted and it bounced back It also had limey green leaves with variegation.
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hey bodhi :D

i was looking at my english elm the other day and i knew it had a dead section down the trunk when i first got it and thought i would have to work something out with it, but looking at it just the otherday like i said, it has got a massive amount of new shoots all up and down the trunk where the dead section was, it wasnt stripped of the bark i had left it on but it was definately dead underneath. now it isnt. have you ever had anything like this happen before?


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i did repot straight away! but still not sure.
anyway here it is! :oops:
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Image It would be a real shame to lose that tree.
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Jamie wrote:hey bodhi :D

i was looking at my english elm the other day and i knew it had a dead section down the trunk when i first got it and thought i would have to work something out with it, but looking at it just the otherday like i said, it has got a massive amount of new shoots all up and down the trunk where the dead section was, it wasnt stripped of the bark i had left it on but it was definately dead underneath. now it isnt. have you ever had anything like this happen before?


jamie :D
G'Day Jamie, This is very typical of an English Elm and why i love them. They will grow a whole new cambium layer from the bottom up if there is even a hint of life in the tree. If you peel the dead bark back you will see it happening under neath. The tree has amazing recuperation powers and that is why a forest can get out of control. Never wipe off an Elm until, at least the next growing season. I am conducting an experiment at the moment in a triple group that i have where the middle stump is dead. I have phoenix grafted a piece of root off the bottom of the group onto the stump . I am hoping it will take the stump over and create a ..LIVE.. stump.
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thanks bodhi :D i am absolutely amazed at this, what a great reproductive ability the english elms have. i will be interested in how your little experiment goes, i think you might be in for a chance if the graft can take quick enough and the bark on the dead trunk will last the distance.
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aussiedamo wrote:i did repot straight away! but still not sure.
anyway here it is! :oops:
O.K thanks Damo. I think i would have repotted it into a big grow box and you could still probably do that. It would not hurt it to stretch its legs for a while. I would also prune it back to it first or second set of secondary branchs and use it as an opportunity to create more ramification next growing season at the same time getting rid of any dead wood that has been created. The tree has been underfed( i think) as they need feeding every two weeks during the growing season. I would probably do that next growing season. Damo, i think your tree will survive no probs but you are only an hours drive from me and if you have any doubts bring it up and let me have a look at it.
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bodhidharma wrote:
aussiedamo wrote:i did repot straight away! but still not sure.
anyway here it is! :oops:
O.K thanks Damo. I think i would have repotted it into a big grow box and you could still probably do that. It would not hurt it to stretch its legs for a while. I would also prune it back to it first or second set of secondary branchs and use it as an opportunity to create more ramification next growing season at the same time getting rid of any dead wood that has been created. The tree has been underfed( i think) as they need feeding every two weeks during the growing season. I would probably do that next growing season. Damo, i think your tree will survive no probs but you are only an hours drive from me and if you have any doubts bring it up and let me have a look at it.

cool thanks mate!! i did think about the grow box as i do have nice large "live fish" box but, this one sits right out front of the kitchen window and my wife had her say!! :roll:
but now i can say "well bodhi said......." and just grow box it! :D

as for being an hour away..its on my list for sure mate. ;)
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hey how cool is that! i now have a tool in my kit


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sweet :lol:
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and whats best in your opinion to feed elms?
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:bump: Hi Bodhi, I was wondering the outcome of your experiment?
Any chance of an update?
bodhidharma wrote: I am conducting an experiment at the moment in a triple group that i have where the middle stump is dead. I have phoenix grafted a piece of root off the bottom of the group onto the stump . I am hoping it will take the stump over and create a ..LIVE.. stump.
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aussiedamo wrote:i did repot straight away! but still not sure.
anyway here it is! :oops:

Do you think it could be just losing its leaves for winter? :imo: I could be totally wrong because my iPad won't let me see a clear picture of the leaves.
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