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[Mojo Moyogi]

Bullseye Chris.

Cheers,
Mojo

[Hackimoto]

It was the arrangement of the bunches of cones that had me convinced that it was a Taxodium, and the general look of the foliage which looks softer and more fern like than the other two.

[squizzy]

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Hi Chris,

See 2 attached photos I have dragged from web to understand what I mean.This is typical of photos that came up when I typed in metasequoia leaf and taxodium leaf. I am aware of compound leaves and leaflets so are you saying the metasequoia picture shown is a stem of a leaf which would make it bi pinnate?

Cheers

Squizz

[Hackimoto]

They are "once- compound" or "once pinnately compound" if you want the full descriptive term.

[chrisatrocky]

A bi pinnately compound leaf is what you would find on a Poinciana, were the has a central spine and 2ndry branching with leaflets coming from them, these pics show pinnately compound leaves, with a single spine and leaflets coming from them and a compound leaf would be like you would find on a schefflera ( 2 or more leaflets coming of the end of the leaf stem.
a bi pinnately compoud leaf

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a compound leaf

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chris

[squizzy]

Thanks for the explenations hackimoto and Chris. It was a great help.

I remember back from tafe the whole pinnate, bi pinnate and tri pinnate thing but as you can see from the metasequoia photo the alternate versus opposite thing was not the whole distinguishing factor here.

I see now that the metasequoia cones are slightly different and they certainly dont look like they crumble from what I can see on the internet. I would say you are right with the taxodium theory.

Sorry I was such a pain in the a hole but asking why? is how I learn.

Cheers

Squizz

[chrisatrocky]

That's Ok Squizzy, I am glad to help. I wish others would put more enthusiasm into their bonsai.

chris.

[Hackimoto]

You have a very inquiring, analytical mind ( Good thing) How are you on religion and the God thing???? Don't answer that , rhetorical question

[squizzy]

yes best I dont answer that

[alpineart]

Hi Chrisatrocky and squizzy , when i refer to the leaf i refer to the compound leaf arrangement not the compound leaf arrangement on the branch , as Hackimoto has said Swampies can have 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 compound leaves on any branch in numerous location on the same tree , all mine do as well , from 1 year old's to 7 year old's , as does the Coast Redwood , not very common on the Dawn Redwood but i have removed a few . The compound leaf is the true way to identify the tree if no cones are present .Yes the cones give it away , as the redwoods have a single cone and yes i have more than a handful of each species here .

When trying to I.D tree's on google you must remember up to 50% the pics and information on Google is incorrect , most is posted by self proclaimed wanna be botanist or the majority people on travels through new places and take a picture add a few words post it online looking for 5 minutes of fame from their friends and confused the hell out of a lot of people trying to correctly identify a particular tree .There are also some so called botanical drawings that are incorrect for these Redwood and Taxodium .The Taxodium Ascendens - pond Cypress has the same cone but in smaller clusters 2-3 and the foliage is different to the Distichum again some drawings i have located show a compound leaf not of a Pond Cypress .

So squizzy with the info on the compound leaf not the leaf arrangement on the branch can you go back and identify the tree ?, forget the cones . If you can find the owner seek permission pull a few smaller branches off pot into sand dunk in a pond and see how many cutting you can get , from memory i think i had more success with hormone added to bigger cuttings than smaller ones , healed cutting grow one sided roots compared to the straight cut and ring barked 10mm up from the base and just before mid winter . But hey try several methods , i know they layer but the thick bark is deceiving as to how thick the wood itself is and the wind can snap a smaller layer off , i need a refresher on some of mine which are due for some testing again , memories got a bit tired and needs re-stimulating . .

Cheers Alpineart