Ash Tree Collection

[TreeHugger]

I have an Ash tree out the front of my place and today i decided to mow the front lawn which i haven't done in 6 weeks i noticed lots of baby Ash trees (around 3-4 inches) growing on the nature strip and my front lawn so i collected them and placed them in seedling pots. I have put them in my greenhouse and if they survive i plan on taking them out in spring.
Is this the right idea or should i just leave them in the elements now?
will they die off in the coming colder weather, or go dormant and re grow?
Handy to know that they germinate so fast as the info i read said they need to be stratified twice before planting, which would take 9 months lol.
I guess if they die i can alway collect next years seed and plant the following spring without stratifying them.

Ash seedlings1.jpg

Thanks
Lee

[Dario]

Hi TreeHugger, I collected some Ash seedlings very late last winter and they were fine although they didn't have any leaves at the time.
I would keep them in the greenhouse and if they showsigns of wilting perhaps cut back some of the leaves.
Are you sure they are ash? Kind of look like robinia? Were they suckers or seedlings? Don't mean to question you as I am not good at id's.
Best of luck with them
Cheers, Dario.

[Craig]

Yes i agree, they do not resemble Ash seedlings

[TreeHugger]

hey dario, all good mate dont mind being questioned.......Im only going by the leaf and bark pattern of the big tree out the front and compared it with what ive seen online, so I'd have to say its just a guess
This tree drops bucket loads of seed pods all over my front lawn and nature strip and these things popped up everywhere

Have a look at this and tell me what you think

Leaf ID1.jpg

Cheers
Lee

[squizzy]

The first thing I notice is the seedlings leaflets are opposite and the leaflets on the last pick are alternate. That could be your first clue

Squizz

[squizzy]

I mean picture not pick
Squizz

[anttal63]

Im fairly sure they are ash. I reared up 100s when i began bonsai. Still got a couple of forests i set up. Anyways they are fun to grow and work with. They have great basal flare and hence develop great nebari. I enjoyed learning on them at the time. However there are so many good ones in the wild that i would rather dig larger stock to get in front now.

[Dario]

Hi TreeHugger, the ash leaflets on my trees all have slightly serated edges.
Having said that, I am sure you know what they are and Antonio also agrees.
Best of luck and please let us know how they turn out mate!
Cheers, Dario.

[anttal63]

Hi TreeHugger, the ash leaflets on my trees all have slightly serated edges.
Having said that, I am sure you know what they are and Antonio also agrees.
Best of luck and please let us know how they turn out mate!
Cheers, Dario.

Yes i think youre right Dario there is no serration on this leaf. Got to stop doing late night id's or was it early morn ??? my appollo's fellas.

If its a Robinia then it flowers. Tree hugger ???

[Diane]

If you want a live, full size Robinia to take a look at, have a drive down some of the main roads in Golden Grove. The roads are lined with Robinia (Golden Rain Tree) hence the choice for Golden Grove.
Robinia are a nice flowering tree but they do sucker along the roots, we had one in a previous garden and we were forever digging them out.

[TreeHugger]

Thanks for your input guys......yeah i think you're right, from memory i think this tree does flower.
Definitely came from seed as a few that i plucked out of the ground still had the seed pod attached, a little disappointed now as i love Ash trees and was hoping the tree out the front was one
Did a bit of research on the net on Robinia, although their isn't a lot of info/pis on bosai-ing them, it is possible so i might just see how we go. Will keep you all posted

Anyone happen to know where in Adelaide i could find some Ash trees growing or even some seed as im hooked on propagation at the moment.

Here's hoping i have a busy spring, oh and I've just found a Liquid Amber tree though the seeds have all dropped now so i guess i will be waiting another year for those:tu:

currently stratifying in the fridge are:
Japanese Red Maples
Japanese Maples
Trident Maples
Japanese Cedar
Norway Spruce

And still have:
Chinese Elm
japanese Elm
Horsetail she oak
Weeping fig
Cedar of lebanon
Brazilian Rain Tree

Yes ok............. the bug has well and truely bitten

Thanks again guys

[coocarch]

You can just buy some liquidambar seeds on eBay. They're actually pretty cheap. There's also the fact that not all the seeds fall out of the pods, I just grab a handful of pods, put them in a glass jar and shake them hard so the seeds fall out. I collected approx. 200 seeds of Liquidambars seeds last month and they are all planted. Hoping that over the next few years they will develop into a few forest settings and plenty of trees. If I can find them, I think I still have a couple of seeds left (probably 10-15 not really sure) that I could mail to you. They were collected from a tree that gives the best autumn colour, gleaming red. I assume they should grow to little versions of that. I can't promise anything but I can say maybe, only if you want them though.

[Dario]

Hey Tree Hugger, can don't you take a pic of the tree out front that you grabbed the seeds from so you can find out exactly what you have planted? If you do, post it here please.
Wow you sure have a bunch of seeds on the go!
If it isn't ash that you planted don't worry as there is still enough time for you to locate some young ash trees to collect this winter. Maybe some members from Adelaide could point you in the right direction?
It's not the same as seeds, but you seem to have a few of them on the go...just an idea?
Cheers, Dario.

[TreeHugger]

Thanks Coocarch, if you've got them and dont want them i will definitely have them thanks. Otherwise i will hope that some kind person from Adelaide can point me in the right direction on where to find some little ash trees or seeds

Dario, I took a few pics today not sure if they will be of any help for you to identify but you clearly have a more trained eye than myself so let me know what you think mate

Tree ID1.jpg

Tree ID2.jpg

Tree ID13.jpg

Hope this helps shed some light on what kind of seedlings i have

[Dario]

Nice pics TreeHugger
I am an absolute beginner, and at this stage I can only id a few tree species.
To my novice eyes it doesn't look like Robinia as the leaflets seem a little to pointy to me, and on a tree of that age and size I would expect the bark to be fully developed (not looking like classic robinia bark to me?).
As for wether or not it is Fraxinus, sorry TreeHugger, I just don't know? My gut tells me no, but I don't know enough about different species of ash trees.
I am certain that the more experienced members will id this tree in a flash!...probably a post of two words would suffice (unlike my ramblings)
Sorry I can not be more helpful mate, but I am sure someone will.
Cheers, Dario.