English Elm
- Bretts
- Bonsai Philosopher
- Posts: 6671
- Joined: November 14th, 2008, 11:04 pm
- Favorite Species: carpinus jbp
- Bonsai Age: 12
- Location: Jervis Bay NSW
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Contact:
English Elm
I collected this tree with a few others last year. I have thought about a raft or a penjing style landscape. I would like to hear any comments from members.
I think it will benifit from another year of growth before I start working it though.
I think it will benifit from another year of growth before I start working it though.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
- aaron_tas
- HARDKNOCKSBONSAI
- Posts: 1067
- Joined: November 13th, 2008, 3:18 pm
- Favorite Species: ulmus
- Bonsai Age: 100
- Bonsai Club: south tas, Illawarra, Launceston
- Location: Launceston
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
wow brett, that certainly is a challenge
definately let the gnarly monster grow, but maybe select some of the leaders or branching before she comes back in spring...
i love yamadori, you will definately get a tree out of this that no one else has

definately let the gnarly monster grow, but maybe select some of the leaders or branching before she comes back in spring...
i love yamadori, you will definately get a tree out of this that no one else has

inspired by nature,
considered superior to nature.
considered superior to nature.
- Bretts
- Bonsai Philosopher
- Posts: 6671
- Joined: November 14th, 2008, 11:04 pm
- Favorite Species: carpinus jbp
- Bonsai Age: 12
- Location: Jervis Bay NSW
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
Thanks Aarron it was this Raft that was nominated at the 2007 Ginko awards that got me thinking raft style might be an option.
I will see if I can switch the brain on to the penjing landscape that also got me thinking.You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by Bretts on June 21st, 2009, 4:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 371
- Joined: January 3rd, 2009, 11:10 am
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: 0
- Location: Melbourne
Re: English Elm
Hi Brett,
That is definitely a very interesting piece of material, and I like the idea you have put forward with the raft style design, I think the character of the trunk would make for a very interesting tree.
My only suggestions would be to get it into a larger pot/container, and as Aaron said start trying to select a few leader branches, and would you also leave a few branches that might help heal the scars...?
That is definitely a very interesting piece of material, and I like the idea you have put forward with the raft style design, I think the character of the trunk would make for a very interesting tree.
My only suggestions would be to get it into a larger pot/container, and as Aaron said start trying to select a few leader branches, and would you also leave a few branches that might help heal the scars...?
- anttal63
- Bend me twist me
- Posts: 5325
- Joined: November 11th, 2008, 12:32 pm
- Bonsai Age: 14
- Bonsai Club: MYCLUB
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: English Elm
yes brett have a go with it. why not take it along to peter adams and get some advice. if not him there will be lots of people to chew the fat. its hard to tell to much from that photo but usually these kind of materials are ideal! i intend to do one with this one, english elm as well.since this photo i have trunk chopped it shorter for taper and changes of direction in the new leader. needless to say long term project. i am inspired by peter adams raft maple in his book. good luck with yours.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Regards Antonio:
- Bretts
- Bonsai Philosopher
- Posts: 6671
- Joined: November 14th, 2008, 11:04 pm
- Favorite Species: carpinus jbp
- Bonsai Age: 12
- Location: Jervis Bay NSW
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
I am starting to agree. I think I should go with the raft and take action this spring to make what progress I can Such as planting in a raft position and select some branches. The beech in the Photo by David Barlow was developed over 9 years. Thanks for the help guys.
Edit: I think three trees is enough to take to Peter Adams I would take a trailer with my whole colection if I could
I think that Elm is crazier than mine Antonio
Edit: I think three trees is enough to take to Peter Adams I would take a trailer with my whole colection if I could

I think that Elm is crazier than mine Antonio

It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
- anttal63
- Bend me twist me
- Posts: 5325
- Joined: November 11th, 2008, 12:32 pm
- Bonsai Age: 14
- Bonsai Club: MYCLUB
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: English Elm
they are very similar brett, its only age that is making the difference from what i can tell but it will all come out in the wash when doing a raft and working with what ya got. 

Last edited by anttal63 on June 21st, 2009, 8:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Regards Antonio:
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 233
- Joined: December 23rd, 2008, 11:07 am
- Favorite Species: peppercorn
- Bonsai Age: 20
- Location: Melbourne
Re: English Elm
Bretts, crikey, i can see the attraction to it, thick, gnarled and large, but holy moley, what can come of it?! good luck, and very much looking forward to seeing the results in years to come.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 14
- Joined: June 20th, 2009, 3:35 am
- Favorite Species: Satsuki
- Bonsai Age: 5
- Bonsai Club: Evergreen Bonsai Club
- Location: Bremerton, WA
Re: English Elm
Bretts I am shocked.... did you nick a grocer's basket? Tisk tisk....
Gnarly bunch of stuff though... Nice part about material like this, is that there are lots of opportunites to be able to use die grinders and dremels to fix visiual problems, and make it look older and even more interesting in the long run.
Kindest regards,
Victrinia

Gnarly bunch of stuff though... Nice part about material like this, is that there are lots of opportunites to be able to use die grinders and dremels to fix visiual problems, and make it look older and even more interesting in the long run.
Kindest regards,
Victrinia
- Bretts
- Bonsai Philosopher
- Posts: 6671
- Joined: November 14th, 2008, 11:04 pm
- Favorite Species: carpinus jbp
- Bonsai Age: 12
- Location: Jervis Bay NSW
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
LOL Vic I knew there had to be one
The retail store that Danica worked for closed down and I was given some of these baskets. I wish I had taken the chance to get more.
Thanks for the comments it should be fun to work with.

Thanks for the comments it should be fun to work with.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 24
- Joined: June 16th, 2009, 2:27 pm
- Favorite Species: Homo Sapiens
- Bonsai Age: 5
- Bonsai Club: Orange Bonsai Group
- Location: Orange, NSW
Re: English Elm
Looks like quite a challenge but should be a really unique tree when you've finished! You should try the Bunnings baskets, they're a deep green which blends a bit better in the garden.
Not that I'm suggesting anything...
Not that I'm suggesting anything...
- Joel
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 1203
- Joined: November 12th, 2008, 3:04 pm
- Favorite Species: A yet to be found native
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: The School of Bonsai
- Location: Gladstone, QLD
- Been thanked: 5 times
Re: English Elm
I missed my opportunity to get some. There was a pile of them around the corner during council cleanup/pickup. There may have been 10 or so. I came back later and they were gone. I agree, they look perfect.scott wrote:Looks like quite a challenge but should be a really unique tree when you've finished! You should try the the hardware store baskets, they're a deep green which blends a bit better in the garden.
Not that I'm suggesting anything...
I really hate this whole not mentioning b#nnings.....
JayC
- Jamie
- Bonsai passionardo
- Posts: 6829
- Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
- Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
- Bonsai Age: 9
- Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
- Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
hey brett
i am interested in whats going on with this beast!! it looks like some interesting, yet challanging material, especially with your idea for a raft style!
would love to see where you have gone with it?
jamie
edit- i am asking as i have just got another for the first time in a few years, my other one was killed due to a lack of watering over a certain period.

would love to see where you have gone with it?

jamie

edit- i am asking as i have just got another for the first time in a few years, my other one was killed due to a lack of watering over a certain period.

Last edited by Jamie on February 6th, 2010, 12:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
taking the top half of trees of since 2005! 
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans


and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans

- Bretts
- Bonsai Philosopher
- Posts: 6671
- Joined: November 14th, 2008, 11:04 pm
- Favorite Species: carpinus jbp
- Bonsai Age: 12
- Location: Jervis Bay NSW
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
I moved it to a deep foam growing box after scoring the non-root end and covering in rooting hormone.
It is growing well but has gone dormant for the summer as seems to be the norm for English elm. This probably didn't get helped any by being moved into full sun to make room for others under the shade
It got a bit of sun burn from that but nothing to worry about. These guys seems to use alot of water. Maybe if they where watered more they would grow for longer in the heat. Something to think about next season.
I have considered giving it a kick (cutting back) to get it going again but I figer it is happy storing energy so patience is the best option.
Not sure a picture will show much but I will take one later.
It is growing well but has gone dormant for the summer as seems to be the norm for English elm. This probably didn't get helped any by being moved into full sun to make room for others under the shade

I have considered giving it a kick (cutting back) to get it going again but I figer it is happy storing energy so patience is the best option.
Not sure a picture will show much but I will take one later.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
- Jamie
- Bonsai passionardo
- Posts: 6829
- Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
- Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
- Bonsai Age: 9
- Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
- Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: English Elm
cheers mate
i found the elm i had got like that to, it went through a summer dormancy period in the hottest part of the season. then it would kick along again the it would either go into dormancy or be semi deciduous.
look forward to seeing something
jamie

look forward to seeing something

jamie

SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
taking the top half of trees of since 2005! 
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans


and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans
