If not, I'll let the tree recover and then cut it back to the lower branch on the lhs and start again, with the apexs' essentially changing sides and becoming very much like mo's pic.
We will see!!!!!

Jason
bodhidharma wrote: I will use this post to say i am also ticked off with newby's breezing in and trampling on long time posters and their advice. They should learn to ease themselves into the process and show us what they have first before shooting from the mouth. Through this whole thread you have been respectful Jason and some people could learn from your attitude.
....everything that has been said here has been a great help because i was just about to "jump in" myself but after reading these posrs, I think some further reaserch may be required.