Dremel or Ozito for a novice ?

[cuwire]

So here is my pressie

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This is the $50 pack with lots of stuff ... most of it useful I hope.

I have 13 bits 11 diamond bits and 2 HSS cutters I am thinking the cutters are the bonsai friendly.

If you have a favorite bit you used when starting out ... then please let me know about it.

Here is something I found on Ebay .. is this the right stuff or am I barking up the wrong tree.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261040581198 ... 1423.l2649


Thank you
Cheers
David

[Bougy Fan]

David if you want cheap dremel bits seach for widgetsupply.com. They are in the states and even with postage they are so much cheaper than over here. I use the multipurpose cutting bit Dremel # 561 for most of my carving.

[Brian]

Well done, its a very good value for money power tool. I have 2 dremel's and one Ozito tool. I reckon the Ozito is just as good. And I speak from experience owing both !

[rdc]

Hi guys
I have just bought Ozito & it came with 3 yr warranty, flexible extension connection, bench stand & range of cutters, most of which almost useless for Bonsia Carving. Bought dremel cutter similar to a router cutter which cost as much but it fits the Ozito collar & worked great.
Rod

[Andrew Legg]

David if you want cheap dremel bits seach for widgetsupply.com. They are in the states and even with postage they are so much cheaper than over here. I use the multipurpose cutting bit Dremel # 561 for most of my carving.

Tony,

I had a look at that 561 bit, and it looks like a drill bit to me. Is that the right one? I have no experience at all with this kinda thing, so it probably is, but just asking!

Cheers,

Andrew

[Stewart_Toowoomba]

Great posting David.

I have just purchased the ozito but have not opened it up yet. Great to get advice from those who have tried. It would be good to hear a little more about which bits are most popular amongst members.

Cheers

Stew

[cuwire]

Thanks again you all for the feedback
Looks to me like any bit designated as cutting ,, for wood is the go ie: 115,117125,192,199.
Andrew the 561 designated Multipurpose and for me (just got one) it goes like crazy.
Check this out ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8-SV6ZA0M

Cheers David

[Bougy Fan]

A bit late but yes that's the one. I find it excellent because the open flutes don't clog up like a drill bit can. And it's sharp ! Once you get used to it you won't use many other bits for the detail work

[Stewart_Toowoomba]

What do members use for heavy carving such as the Graham Potter Weasel or terrier (as seen on Kaisen Video Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xqfbiqbjT8 )

Is this bit too much for the Ozito type power tool?

Cheers

Stew

[Damian79]

Hi guys
thanks Cuwire for this question as im in the same boat. I agree with some of the stuff said and I think Ill try the Ozito first. If its no good then its not a big deal and ill buy the Dremel.
Thanks

[cre8ivbonsai]

Hi guys
thanks Cuwire for this question as im in the same boat. I agree with some of the stuff said and I think Ill try the Ozito first. If its no good then its not a big deal and ill buy the Dremel.
Thanks

What do members use for heavy carving such as the Graham Potter Weasel or terrier (as seen on Kaisen Video Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xqfbiqbjT8 )

Is this bit too much for the Ozito type power tool?

Cheers

Stew

Gave the Ozito a bit of a run (for only the second time) and then the motor conked out, took it back to bu##ings and they replaced the tool only. Second goon Saturday I was around at a mates, and the Ozito bits aren't much chop, I ended up using his nuematic (air compressor) rotary tool with a his proper carving bit to do some main carving and then clean up with the Ozito. My experience is - don't push the Oz until the motor nearly stops - and the Oz bits don't do much by way of intense carving, and the wire brushes and cutters desintegrate pretty quick (depending on the application). I might try that 561 Dremel bit if bu##ning$ sells it see if that can do a bit more chewing . If you've got the cash I'd get a die grinder or similar with a bit more grunt and chunkier bits

Good luck,
Ryan

[cre8ivbonsai]

well picked up a new dremmel bit from BW yesterday, the 117 High Speed Cutter, this certainly takes away more wood and is comparable to my mates nuematic version

[Lynette]

I have killed 2 dremels and now have had the oritzo fo rseveral years and it is still going well.
Lynette

[Bonsai4ever]

Having dealt with tools most of my life, I find it difficult to believe that the Ozito could be better than the Dremel, I think that a few people here are reasoning with their wallets rather than the facts - but each to their own.

For serious carvers I would suggest looking at the Foredom or Archer (Available at all Carba-Tec stores). These machines have an optional recriprocating hand piece which come with a set of chisels and are great for serious wood removal. Warning. They come at a cost, but then most good tools do.

[cre8ivbonsai]

I have killed 2 dremels and now have had the oritzo fo rseveral years and it is still going well.
Lynette

Good to hear a diverse range of user experiences, sometimes cheaper tools do the job just as well

Having dealt with tools most of my life, I find it difficult to believe that the Ozito could be better than the Dremel, I think that a few people here are reasoning with their wallets rather than the facts - but each to their own.

Hi B4E as this topic suggests it is from a novice point of view. And from that angle it just is about getting taste for carving etc and seeing if is a technique to continue on with. When I buy a tool (esp. power tool) I would normally go for something of mid-range quality if I knew I would use it many more times into the future, if it's a one off job go cheap. Therefore with Dremel at three times the price, the Ozito is easier to justify to see if I like carving or not (if not its not a huge waste).

For serious carvers I would suggest looking at the Foredom or Archer (Available at all Carba-Tec stores). These machines have an optional recriprocating hand piece which come with a set of chisels and are great for serious wood removal. Warning. They come at a cost, but then most good tools do.

Sure, if you've decided that carving is your thing, and you've got that kind of cash to invest, then I take your word that these would be excellent tools for the job. (in a separate thread) I'd love to see some of your carving work to see what we novices can aspire to and what these more serious machines can achieve?

Cheers,
Ryan