The way Peter Adams was going on about this stuff I am sure he was getting kickbacks from the company but it does seem like great stuff. It can be used to secure rocks together, for adding deadwood to a tree (fresh living or dead tissue Peter has used it to fix a living twig that snapped) or securing wire for landscape plantings. I am sure there are plenty of other uses we could come up with. When securing rocks together they can be set in place with wire and then the Gorilla glue is added around the joins the foaming action makes the glue penetrate into joins. Takes 24 hours to set.
Searching for Gorilla glue to buy the wood working forums suggest that the magic ingredient is being a Polyurethane glue and they suggest that Vise Supergrip Polyurethane Glue should be as good. Thier website suggests that it is only available at Bunnings. http://www.vise.com.au/
Or head to ebay for the real thing, but only international sellers have it.
This is Peter's commercial smile with the product
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Thanks for all the other Information from Peter, Lee. If I knew you where taking such great notes I would have concentrated on beating Ray to the front of the food line
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It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
WHAT?!?!?!?! I took extensive notes and still made it to the food line if not in the first flush, at least before the prawns were gone.
I have an extensive article on Gorilla Glue but will not post it since you have done it. Mind you, I thought it a bit strange to have so much time spent on promoting a product, regardless of how good, that is not available in Australia... or are you saying that Bunnings has it?
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I am generally not a note taker but I did try this time. Those prawns where nice
I was waiting for you to upload about Gorilla glue but thought you had left it out
It is not Gorilla glue that is at bunnings but "Vise Supergrip Polyurethane Glue" which the more I read the more it seems like the same stuff as the woodworking guys suggest the Polyurethane is the active ingredient in both Gorilla glue and Vise supergrip.
It also reads exactly the same as Gorilla Glue in it's key features.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
Oh I just rememberd. Mr Fly bri might like to know that Peters friend usues this glue to build musical intruments but I was not fast enough with my note taking to jot down what instrument it is he makes with it. Anyone remember
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
Thanks Brett for the follow up on Gorilla Glue. I shall make a trip to my local Bunnings tomorrow for the Aussie Alternative!
Not sure of the validity of the 'promise' that it will glue back broken branches ... I think that it will do just that, but they will then be broken and dead branches! Perhaps something for somebody to test!!!
Remember that Peter recommended not to be fooled by buying a bigger bottle ... that the smaller bottle is the way to go. Also that it is essential to festidiously clean the top and reseal.
Have looked at the Vise website and it certainly looks like a locally available alternative. I will be trying it out tomorrow on a bunch of volcanic rocks that I am preparing for a saikei demonstration. Shall keep you posted on the results.
Bretts wrote:Oh I just rememberd. Mr Fly bri might like to know that Peters friend usues this glue to build musical intruments but I was not fast enough with my note taking to jot down what instrument it is he makes with it. Anyone remember
Thanks Brettles!
(Yes - that old mandolin is still in pieces, but I don't think I'll be trying anything as vigorous as Gorilla Glue on this particular repair job... I'll stick to the traditional alternative of rabbit skin glue for now, as it is easily removed if I make a mistake.)
I have seen the Vise brand glue at the hardware, and I believe its description matches that of Gorilla Glue. It is quite pricey, but I imagine it goes a long way (if you can prevent it going off in the bottle).
Thanks.
Fly.
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No worries Fly. I would think it would be hard to pull apart again if you did use Gorilla Glue.
Good points to bring up Andrew I forgot to mention those things. I am looking forward to what you make of the vise glue.
Maybe you miss understand what I was relating about what Peter said about gluing a branch back. This would be on a partial break. It would still have a live portion connected and the glue is applied to ensure it stays back in place. The interesting thing here is that it is non-toxic to live tissue. It can be used to glue onto live bark if you so wish.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
Thanks Brett for clarifying the statement about sticking branches back together. Makes sense.
Bought a bottle of Vise Polyurethane Glue today ... $6 for 125 ml ... have successfully stuck together a salvaged Woomera Rock that was previously used for root over rock and it now has a future again. Also have stuck some volcanic rocks together.
Rather than using wire to hold the rocks together (as Peter did in his demo), I used a product available from Lindsay and Glenis Bebb called Bio-Graft Tape. The tape is not adhesive but is similar to glad wrap in that it sticks to itself. I found it easier to work with then the wire.
The Vise has bubbled up like the Gorilla Glue, and I have started to pick some of the excess away from the rocks. I think that Brett you have found the Aussie (readily available) alternative. Well done!!!
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
have you got a pic of this rocket andrew my dad had a few miniture rockets i must ask where they went 2
Bought a bottle of Vise Polyurethane Glue today ... $6 for 125 ml ... have successfully stuck together a salvaged Woomera Rock that was previously used for root over rock and it now has a future again. Also have stuck some volcanic rocks together.
loopeozzie wrote:have you got a pic of this rocket andrew my dad had a few miniture rockets i must ask where they went 2
Bought a bottle of Vise Polyurethane Glue today ... $6 for 125 ml ... have successfully stuck together a salvaged Woomera Rock that was previously used for root over rock and it now has a future again. Also have stuck some volcanic rocks together.
I think he said Rock not Rocket
althought the Woomera bit caught me too thinking what theck does a "Root over Rocket" look like
Have been playing more with the VISE glue ... onto my second bottle!!!
I am in the process of putting a saikei together. The VISE glue holds the lava rocks together really well and cleans up brilliantly. I have been scraping excess off and then running over with a course wire brush to take off the rest. I will post some photos soon.
As for the 'Woomera rocket' ... I like the concept of root over rock, if you can do root over bowling ball (blue bowling ball thanks to the front of Kym James!) then why not think divergently and try a rocket? I am sure that Ray Nesci may have this for a future play concept!!!
yep i reread and it was a rock i lived in woomera for about 8 years as a yungster they had modle rockets no bigger than a foot high if i can find one i will stick a fig ontop of it :.)
