Pyracantha

smith · Post by **smith** » August 18th, 2013, 6:06 pm

Hi guys
Just brought this multi trunk pyracantha yesterday, took it out of the horrible soil and repotted, just looking for some ideas if anyone has some.
I wedged the trunk to separate it a little.

Post by **Bougy Fan** » August 18th, 2013, 6:14 pm

Are you sure it's a firethorn ? If so it looks very sick. Get rid of the spag moss of the surface - it won't do anything. Is it in a free draining mix ? I would give it a drink of seasol maybe once a day for a week or two to get it looking healthy.

alpineart · Post by **alpineart** » August 18th, 2013, 6:23 pm

Hi Smith , mate that looks more like a Lonercera Japonica - Honeysuckle , definately not a Pyracantha .

Cheers Alpineart

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » August 18th, 2013, 7:11 pm

Bougy Fan wrote:Are you sure it's a firethorn ? If so it looks very sick. Get rid of the spag moss of the surface - it won't do anything. Is it in a free draining mix ? I would give it a drink of seasol maybe once a day for a week or two to get it looking healthy.

I am with Bougy on this
I suspect it is not unhealthy but is a deciduous tree with some old foliage remaining.
Possibly a pomegranate

Boics · Post by **Boics** » August 18th, 2013, 8:41 pm

Gerard wrote:
Bougy Fan wrote:Are you sure it's a firethorn ? If so it looks very sick. Get rid of the spag moss of the surface - it won't do anything. Is it in a free draining mix ? I would give it a drink of seasol maybe once a day for a week or two to get it looking healthy.
I am with Bougy on this
I suspect it is not unhealthy but is a deciduous tree with some old foliage remaining.
Possibly a pomegranate

Leaves definitely look like pomegranate to me.
Yes not sure what the moss is for?

smith · Post by **smith** » August 18th, 2013, 9:09 pm

Hi guys, thanks for the response.
I brought this from a bonsai nursery marked as a pyracantha. The soil it was in was horrible so I repotted.
It's in a free draining mix, the spag moss is just while it settles in. I cut some foliage off the to and sprayed it for bugs.
It's got new foliage all over. We'll see how it goes for the next month and probably cut back to reduce height and possibly remove one of the three back trunks.

Post by **kcpoole** » August 18th, 2013, 10:15 pm

Have no idea what it is, but I like the clump style of the base.

The last photo the left trunk has 2 shoots going back inside the rest so unless they wil be the future, cut them back to get rid of the crossing branches.

Ken

Scott Roxburgh · Post by **Scott Roxburgh** » August 19th, 2013, 1:36 pm

Bougy Fan wrote:...Get rid of the spag moss of the surface - it won't do anything....

Boics wrote:...Yes not sure what the moss is for?

I am interested to hear your thoughts on the problem with Sphagnum moss on the soil surface???

I have used it on the surface of my deciduous trees for 3 years now, and it helps a great deal to keep humidity up and the top layer of soil moist between waterings, it stops the fine roots frying.

I would recommend it to anyone that has a micro climate with low humidity and wants to use a inorganic mix.

smith · Post by **smith** » August 19th, 2013, 2:14 pm

I also read somewhere it help with rooting on cuttings as I has a hormone in it
Cheers

Post by **Bougy Fan** » August 19th, 2013, 5:33 pm

True Scott but up here in Sunny QLD we have humidity to boot. I also believe it would be easier to monitior the soil to make sure it doesn't dry out. We are having mid 20's during the day up here already

The only time I ever use spag moss on the surface is to encourage new surface roots.

Gav · Post by **Gav** » September 5th, 2013, 5:11 pm

Did you by any chance get that from a nursery in the Dakabin area on Old Gympie Road. If so I have seen quite a few things in there that were mislabeled. Not trying to tarnish the places credibility but just to reinforce to keep an eye out.
Regards,

Gavin

Ray M · Post by **Ray M** » September 5th, 2013, 5:55 pm

Hi Smith,
I would like to second what Tony and Ken have said. As it has been re-potted give it a drink of Seasol at least every couple of days. Ken is right about the front trunks crossing over. The following are just suggestions. You could cut the inside trunk off at the red line. Move the second trunk, (yellow), out away from the other trunks. Move the back trunk, (orange), out to separate from the rest of the clump.

image-2.jpg

Regards Ray

Pup · Post by **Pup** » September 6th, 2013, 9:37 am

Regarding the mislabeling of plants. I have seen the lovely little offspring that go to the nursery with their parents running around. Thinking that one looks better in that pot.

I have also bought plants after they have done this, fortunately the assistant knew the difference.

I also believe this is a pomegranate.

Cheers Pup

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » September 6th, 2013, 4:51 pm

Hi Smith,
This pomegranate clump was a bit similar to yours a few years ago and might give you some ideas.

pomegranate clump.jpg

Also a leaf comparison

pyracantha top pomegranate bottom.jpg

the pomegranate leaf is more delicate and the new season growth tips are reddish they are deciduous
pyracantha is evergreen new growth is pale green and leaves have a slightly serrated edge

craig_w · Post by **craig_w** » September 6th, 2013, 5:33 pm

Hi all,
I don't mean to be rude.but this was posted in deciduous,are pyracantha deciduous? I know pomegranate are...

Sweet looking clump either way

AusBonsai

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