Chinese Elm

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Chinese Elm

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Hi i have an interesting Elm that i need advise on styling as there is lots of weird and wonderful things happening with the trunk.

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unfortunately the rear branches have already been cut as i was a little too eager but now im left wondering where to go with this tree. As you might be able to see the pot is full of roots so will need a replant i might try to incorporate some sort of root over rock dynamic to this tree and have it cascading over the edge of the new pot, am very open to experienced ideas though!! :tu:
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Re: Chinese Elm

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Personally the 90 degree angle doesn't do much for me.

As you wish to re-pot this guy anyway I'd look to reposition the tree into a more upright angle.
When you are re-potting I'd butcher all of the longer growth a fair bit to start to work on some ramification closer to the main trunk.
Reason being is that most of the foliage is really creeping away from the main action (trunk) and needs to be more compact (IMO).

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Re: Chinese Elm

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You sir are a genius, i didnt even think about that!
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Boics wrote:Personally the 90 degree angle doesn't do much for me.

As you wish to re-pot this guy anyway I'd look to reposition the tree into a more upright angle.
ditto on this one.
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Amen, Boics.
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Ces wrote:
Boics wrote: God what I would do to have my PC back and be rid of this stupid MAC forever!
Amen, Boics.
You guys know you can run Windows on a Mac, right? Whether you like the operating system or not, Apple's hardware is rock solid.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344661,00.asp

I agree with the other advice too. Change that angle.
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Re: Chinese Elm

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lackhand wrote:
Ces wrote:
Boics wrote: God what I would do to have my PC back and be rid of this stupid MAC forever!
Amen, Boics.
You guys know you can run Windows on a Mac, right? Whether you like the operating system or not, Apple's hardware is rock solid.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344661,00.asp

I agree with the other advice too. Change that angle.
Get rid of Paying tax to both Apple and Microsoft and run Linux :D :D Take your pick of Distro and feel the freedom :imo:
http://www.linuxmint.com/
http://www.ubuntu.com/
http://fedoraproject.org/

:tu: :tu:

Funny that grant only today said that he cannot wait till he can get a Mac :lol: :lol:

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Have you thought to Cut back hard and regrow?
As the trunk is, the sections are the same length above your first bend, and there is not a lot of taper in it.
if possible, you could also bend it some more to give more interest.

For me a cut back 1/2 way along that section and regrow a new top. You can also airlayer if you want to keep the top bit.

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Re: Chinese Elm

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kcpoole wrote:
lackhand wrote:
Ces wrote:
Boics wrote: God what I would do to have my PC back and be rid of this stupid MAC forever!
Amen, Boics.
You guys know you can run Windows on a Mac, right? Whether you like the operating system or not, Apple's hardware is rock solid.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344661,00.asp

I agree with the other advice too. Change that angle.
Get rid of Paying tax to both Apple and Microsoft and run Linux :D :D Take your pick of Distro and feel the freedom :imo:
http://www.linuxmint.com/
http://www.ubuntu.com/
http://fedoraproject.org/

:tu: :tu:

Funny that grant only today said that he cannot wait till he can get a Mac :lol: :lol:

Back on Topic
Have you thought to Cut back hard and regrow?
As the trunk is, the sections are the same length above your first bend, and there is not a lot of taper in it.
if possible, you could also bend it some more to give more interest.

For me a cut back 1/2 way along that section and regrow a new top. You can also airlayer if you want to keep the top bit.

Ken
@ Ken - I saw Grant say that the other day and I thought to myself :shake: :shake: :shake:

@ Lackhand my gripes with this MBP Retina are around the piddly performance, stability and interoperability.
First and last... It's been such a regression from my previous Dell. Style, Build = 9 performance/stability 4.6 interoperability 4.

Back on topic.

Ken's idea is IMO the best.
If you layer at or around the bend you can still pull off the basic style I suggested and you will have 2 trees that are more in proportion.

Last year I air layered a Chinese Elm and it produced roots and 2 viable trees in I think under 2 months.
Now would be a good time to set the layer too.

Keep us posted.
The trunk size looks thick enough for a couple of decent Shohins in time.
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