Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Share your success stories about defoliation, bare rooting and anything else relating to maintaining healthy bonsai.
Post Reply
Naym
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 59
Joined: June 1st, 2009, 9:01 am
Bonsai Age: 6
Location: Sydney
Contact:

Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Post by Naym »

Hi all,

I've managed to get hold of a blue atlantic cedar and I'm told that they do not like high Nitrogen fertilisers. Does anyone have any experience with these? How low is low in this case? For example, would a fruiting fertiliser be good or do I need to find something with lower N?

Thanks
Naym.
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
LLK
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1025
Joined: February 4th, 2009, 10:03 pm
Favorite Species: Acacia howittii
Bonsai Age: 25
Bonsai Club: CBS, WCBG
Location: Canberra
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 35 times

Re: Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Post by LLK »

My blue Atlas cedar (Cedrus atlanticus) gets the same fertilisers as all my other exotics and slobbers it all up without complaining. Has done so for 7 years. Fertilisers: various, organic or chemical, 3 - 4 times a year. Couple of things, though: cedars like a very well draining soil mix but have to be kept moist, and they need protection from the sun from about late Spring to mid-Autumn, depending on temps. Repotting in early Spring, but not until really necessary; no drastic pruning and repotting in the same year.

LLK
User avatar
stymie
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 481
Joined: November 13th, 2008, 9:39 pm
Favorite Species: Cedrus Lonicera & Larix
Bonsai Age: 28
Bonsai Club: SYBS DDGC BGS FOBBS
Location: South Yorkshire UK
Contact:

Re: Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Post by stymie »

I too, grow various Atlas cedars and have not heard anything about low nitrates. Mine have the same as everything else with the addition of at least three annual feeds of ericaceous fertiliser.
My name is Don. I'm a UK nutter and bonsaiholic but I'm on medication (when I can find the tablets)

ad sum ard labor.
Naym
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 59
Joined: June 1st, 2009, 9:01 am
Bonsai Age: 6
Location: Sydney
Contact:

Re: Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Post by Naym »

Sweet. Thanks guys, that simplifies things :)
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
User avatar
paddles
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 669
Joined: December 11th, 2008, 12:52 pm
Favorite Species: a live tree
Bonsai Age: 10
Bonsai Club: Bendigo
Location: echuca Victoria

Re: Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Post by paddles »

I was told once, that a feed of iron chelates, will help them stay blue, my blue atlantic ceders are seed grown, and very hard to tell the difference between them and the standard atlantic ceders (Only when you put them side by side can you see the difference). I had a grafted one, but it died...
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
LLK
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1025
Joined: February 4th, 2009, 10:03 pm
Favorite Species: Acacia howittii
Bonsai Age: 25
Bonsai Club: CBS, WCBG
Location: Canberra
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 35 times

Re: Low N -> Blue Atlantic Cedar

Post by LLK »

I was told once, that a feed of iron chelates, will help them stay blue, my blue atlantic ceders are seed grown, and very hard to tell the difference between them and the standard atlantic ceders (Only when you put them side by side can you see the difference). I had a grafted one, but it died...
Well, you could try giving the blue cedars Phostrogen as a fertiliser, which contains iron chelates and is for acid-loving plants, like the cedars for example. It helps to 'blue' some plants, like the Hydrangea, but I don't know about the Atlas cedars. Neither my blue Atlas nor my blue spruce get anything special, but Don gives something like Phostrogen.
Could the colouring be a question of maturity?
We need the opinion of an expert here.

LLK
Post Reply

Return to “Tips, Techniques, Maintenance and Advice”