Liquid amber first aerial layering

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Liquid amber first aerial layering

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hi all,
I m going to share pictures of one of my first areal layerings, I performed on a Liquid amber thats been in my garden for many years .
A. The first cut
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after removal of the bark i placed Clonex rooting gel on the barks edge of chosen branch. B.Once cutting a flower pot down one side with a small cut out hole in the bottom of pot to fit the branch.C. After doing that i placed pot around trunk closing the side with duct tape & then packing it with spagnum moss.
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D. Finally finnishing with wrapping the pot with a shopping bag securing the ends with garden twist tyes.
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There you have it one of my many firsts.
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Post by alpineart »

Hi Petra , usually a complete ring bark is required as the tree will heal the wound with a callous and not sprout roots ,You must completely interupt the sap flow as a vigourous growing tree will heal with a scar rather than grow roots .Usually a bridge of bark is left on Coniferous trees not on deciduous trees .Cheers
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Did you take the rest of the bark off between your cuts or leave bark bridges Petra? I ask because if the latter was the case, the branch will probably continue to grow using the bridges instead of making roots. I no longer leave any bark at all on a cylindrical area of 1½ times the diameter of the branch being layered. This has resulted in root formation on everything but a Yew which is almost impossible material. I don't wish to be a wet blanket, I'm just relating my experience and I wish you success.
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Hi Petra, Yep hope it works out for you. Have to agree, though, on deciduous trees a complete ringbark is the preferred method. Peter Chan has an excellent book on all the preferred methods. Bonsai Masterclass Peter Chan, Distributor is Simon and Schuster. When i was first considering all these wonderful new things to acquire more Bonsai this book was invaluable.
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Re: Liquid amber first aerial layering

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O.k Guys, :oops: settle down. I did do the whole ring bark, the photo of that particular moment did not come out. I did forget to mention that , sorry.
thanks for reminding me guys. ;)
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Re: Liquid amber first aerial layering

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On the subject of aerial layering...is this the best time of year to start this type of thing?
I too have never tried layering and would like to start this season. I guess spring would be the best time, warmth and growth etc but just wanted to clarify before I go nuts! :)
I've got some Prunus spp. out the front I would like to trim and keeping the unwanted sections seems like a good idea!
Thanks - Pat
P.S - Sorry Petra, not trying to hi-jack the thread, just thought this would be an appropriate place for this question.. :)
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Re: Liquid amber first aerial layering,Not.

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I would like to inform you all, that this layering had'n taken. I have tried other methods since, at stages of Bud break,then full leaf to no availe.
One more thing, i found out i had miss lead you thinking it is a luquid amber. It isnt, i now know it is a Robinia . :oops: :oops: :oops:
Please disreguard all info i have mentioned for liquidamber.
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From what Ive read on air-layering (I haven't tried it yet though), Vitamin B1 is supposed to be used in the solution you wet the sphagnum moss with. I don't know if Clonex is the same or equivalent, but I would have thought it would have taken if it was kept moist.
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Hi Petra, i think your tree is an ASH not Robina, the leaves in the very first picture you posted look to be ash tree leaves,


these are Robina leaves, what do you think?
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Re: Liquid amber first aerial layering

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yeah, i have it wrong again. :palm:
here are some pics of leaves and of the trunk i took today .
Maeby this time well get an ID.
Anyone :?: :?: :?:
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