2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Forum for discussion of Flowering and fuiting bonsai - Azalea, Serissa, Apricot etc.
Post Reply
User avatar
Inspired
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 279
Joined: August 25th, 2014, 12:09 pm
Favorite Species: conifers
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: VIC

2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Inspired »

Hi and thought I'd share my first Wisteria which was acquired in December bare rooted.

I have decided to train it in a semi cascade style and will eventually change the pot it current sits in.

It's age is 16 years and was told it won't flower this year due to the pruning however to my delight.. 2 beautiful blooms and oh what scent they have!

Very happy :P

Image
Scooter_M
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 126
Joined: April 13th, 2013, 7:43 pm
Favorite Species: Trident Maple, Wisteria
Bonsai Age: 2
Bonsai Club: none
Location: Melbourne

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Scooter_M »

Thats awesome, grats on the flowers!

I planted one recently, hoping to get it up nicely, however its no were near that old, i think its only about 3-4 years. So prob a few years yet before i get some flowers.

:tu: :tu:
User avatar
Gerard
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2656
Joined: October 7th, 2009, 12:32 pm
Favorite Species: pines
Bonsai Age: 16
Bonsai Club: BSV, Northwest, Northern Suburbs, VNBC
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 49 times

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Gerard »

I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?
Q: Why are we all here?
A: Because we are not all there.
User avatar
Newbie.mia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 85
Joined: July 17th, 2013, 11:34 am
Favorite Species: Pines
Bonsai Age: 1
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of qld, toowoomba bonsai group
Location: Upper Lockyer
Contact:

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Newbie.mia »

Gerard wrote:I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?
I have just planted wisteria seeds and the white ones were labeled Chinese white the Blues were just called blue wisteria. Both wisteria sinuses alba. Not sure if that helps though.
User avatar
Newbie.mia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 85
Joined: July 17th, 2013, 11:34 am
Favorite Species: Pines
Bonsai Age: 1
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of qld, toowoomba bonsai group
Location: Upper Lockyer
Contact:

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Newbie.mia »

Lovely flowers inspired thanks for sharing
User avatar
Inspired
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 279
Joined: August 25th, 2014, 12:09 pm
Favorite Species: conifers
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: VIC

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Inspired »

Gerard wrote:I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?
:reading:

Identifying Chinese Wisteria

Chinese wisteria, also known as wisteria sinesis, has shiny green, alternate, odd and pinnately shaped leaves, four to ten inches long, with seven to thirteen leaflets on four to sixteen stalks.

The fruit is a flattened, velvety bean pod about two to four inches long containing poisonous seeds. In late summer the bean pod cracks open and releases the seeds.

The flowers are white, violet and blue, about six to nine inches long. Typically, Chinese wisteria flower clusters are more abundant than the Japanese wisteria.

Identifying Japanese Wisteria

Japanese wisteria, also known as wisteria floribunda, has shiny, dark green, alternate, odd and pinnately shaped leaves, four to ten inches long, with thirteen to nineteen leaflets on four to sixteen stalks.

The fruit is a flattened, velvety bean pod about two to four inches long containing poisonous seeds. In late summer the bean pod cracks open and releases the seeds.

Japanese wisteria has a more whitish bark with blooms of white, pink, blue and violet. The blooms can reach twenty inches long with a fragrance resembling grapes.

Spiraling Opposites

A curios difference between Chinese and Japanese wisteria is that Chinese wisteria vines spiral clockwise while Japanese wisteria vines spiral in the opposite direction.
Isitangus
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 915
Joined: May 7th, 2012, 9:18 pm
Favorite Species: Figs & anything flowering or unusual
Bonsai Age: 1
Bonsai Club: campbelltown Bonsai club
Location: camden area, NSW

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Isitangus »

Newbie.mia wrote:
Gerard wrote:I have always been unsure of the identification of wisterias, I have 2. I believe my white one is a Japanese wisteria nad my purple one is a Chinese wisteria but surely it is not that simple?
I have just planted wisteria seeds and the white ones were labeled Chinese white the Blues were just called blue wisteria. Both wisteria sinuses alba. Not sure if that helps though.
Seed grown wisteria may take many many years (like 15) before they flower, whereas cutting are the opposite.
Isitangus
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 915
Joined: May 7th, 2012, 9:18 pm
Favorite Species: Figs & anything flowering or unusual
Bonsai Age: 1
Bonsai Club: campbelltown Bonsai club
Location: camden area, NSW

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Isitangus »

Inspired wrote:Hi and thought I'd share my first Wisteria which was acquired in December bare rooted.

I have decided to train it in a semi cascade style and will eventually change the pot it current sits in.

It's age is 16 years and was told it won't flower this year due to the pruning however to my delight.. 2 beautiful blooms and oh what scent they have!

Very happy :P

Image
I love the tree but not sure how you will make it into semi cascade?? I'm not saying it can't be in just saying I can't picture it.
User avatar
Inspired
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 279
Joined: August 25th, 2014, 12:09 pm
Favorite Species: conifers
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: VIC

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Inspired »

Whilst having leisurely perusals in nurseries and garden centers I did notice and wondered how they managed to get their what looks like several year old wisterias to bloom?

The plant themselves were no higher than half a meter with pencil size thickness for the young vine. Could it have been cuttings from a more matured specimen or perhaps a graft?

Anyone have a pink wisteria?
longd_au
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 340
Joined: July 31st, 2013, 9:59 pm
Favorite Species: Maple
Bonsai Age: 5
Bonsai Club: None
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 61 times

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by longd_au »

I am like Inspired, I bought two Wisteria from the big green house last year to grow over a pergola and although both has thicken from pencil thickness to about 2cm, one has started flowering this year.
I thought they don't flower for 10 - 15 years old.

They must be cuttings from an older stock because I air layered a thick branch from my parent's house (approx. 5 - 6cm ) and it flowered covering the entire plant this year.
Unfortunately, I was overseas when it was in full bloom and only came back to see the drying flowers that has mostly fallen off.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Dennis
A journey full of experiments
User avatar
Inspired
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 279
Joined: August 25th, 2014, 12:09 pm
Favorite Species: conifers
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: VIC

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Inspired »

Isitangus wrote:I love the tree but not sure how you will make it into semi cascade?? I'm not saying it can't be in just saying I can't picture it.
Cheers Isitangus I do see that most semi cascades are derived from one main branch cascading. I'm planning on using several layers of branches with the bottom branch to be pulled downwards with the others veering to the right to be shortened. This will hopefully amplify the display of blooms as they are left to cascade from the branches themselves.

I do dislike the straight up branch in the middle which I've yet decided how to best work it :lost:
User avatar
fishurgutsout
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 34
Joined: June 26th, 2013, 4:21 pm
Bonsai Age: 0
Bonsai Club: Bonsai Society of WA
Location: Perth northern suburbs

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by fishurgutsout »

Air layer the straight up branch. Would look good as another specimen.
User avatar
Wayne R
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 111
Joined: August 29th, 2014, 12:38 pm
Favorite Species: Camellia Japanese Maple
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: Perth

Re: 2 Bloom Japanese Wisteria

Post by Wayne R »

Inspired wrote: A curios difference between Chinese and Japanese wisteria is that Chinese wisteria vines spiral clockwise while Japanese wisteria vines spiral in the opposite direction.
I believe it is the other way. Chinese Wisteria coil anti-clockwise and Japanese coil clockwise. After hearing of my desire to learn more about Bonsai, my dear sister has just presented me with a 3yo Japanese Wisteria from the Green Shed and is expecting me to create something akin to the bonsai wisterias she has seen on the internet... like, now. I haven't got the heart to tell her she'll prolly have to wait about 10-15 years.
Peace
Wayne
Post Reply

Return to “Flowering and fruiting”