AusBonsai Bunjingi Style Discussion

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » October 20th, 2009, 7:57 pm

Don't blame the messanger but I believe there are still only 2-3 that are traditional Literati by Deborah's classification on form.

9,13 and maybe 12

Chris H · Post by **Chris H** » October 20th, 2009, 8:05 pm

Ill take 12, just love it when this works.

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » October 20th, 2009, 8:19 pm

first off, number 14 is my favourite. even with the foliage being heavier. i think this one leads more to a modern style of bunjingi. this lot of trees are a lot more to the style. although still not traditional, i think they lend themselves a lot better to the bunjin style. as for number 12 brett, i appreciate that you like it and everyone has their own tastes, i am not quite sure about the twin drooping branches, i think for the tree to work it would need to have one or the other removed. it makes the tree look, how can i put this, ragged maybe, yes i know bunjingi incoprarates this into the style. yet i think the way it realy works is to be able to show ruggedness while the tree is still quite "neat" in a sense. i think what i have just said will stir some conjecture, but this is just my opinion, as everyone else has.

regards jamie

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » October 20th, 2009, 9:06 pm

Here is an intresting discussion that relates
http://bonsaibark.com/2009/10/19/anothe ... i-warrior/

Pup · Post by **Pup** » October 20th, 2009, 10:04 pm

bodhidharma wrote:Good God Pup, Where are you getting these trees from Now these are stunning examples.

But there's more

It has led to discussion and thought. I am enjoying it

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » October 20th, 2009, 11:17 pm

Pup wrote:
bodhidharma wrote:Good God Pup, Where are you getting these trees from Now these are stunning examples.
But there's more

It has led to discussion and thought. I am enjoying it

well mate, while there is opinions on different things which there always will be, we will always have discussion and thought leading to something else.
im loving this thread too

jamie

Pup · Post by **Pup** » October 21st, 2009, 1:28 am

Just for when you guys wake up. As I said more we can keep going but I think this enough for us to have some Idea what the Judges want to see.

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In this lot there are some that sail close to the wind, but remember top 2/3 and the Ochieda ( a long hanging branch ).
Enjoy, I hope I have not doubled up, it is late and I have had a lot on my feeble mind.

Pup

stymie · Post by **stymie** » October 21st, 2009, 7:01 am

I'll pop in a few which may or may not all be acceptable literati. Most of them are in western eyes. They are Pines, the favourite variety but I wouldn't say that broadleaf is precluded. They're just a bit harder.

I'm going to back out now for a spell and watch the arguments blossom.

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » October 21st, 2009, 7:19 am

nice pup,

one thing i am wondering, this being a free form style is a long hanging branch something a necessessity to make a convincing bunjingi. or as stated being free form can this be something that is not needed???

personally i feel i have seen a many tree in the buunjingi style that is convingcing without it?

jamie

Deadwood · Post by **Deadwood** » October 21st, 2009, 8:36 am

Wow,
I really love some of those designs. Especially the rugged designs.

Definately gets the creative juices flowing.

Ad.

Pup · Post by **Pup** » October 21st, 2009, 9:16 am

Jamie you will note in the description of the style it is there. You will also note that a majority of the trees do not have it.
Being part of the description does not mean it must , after all Bunjingi is a free form style

is it not.
I am glad you joined in Stymie, because they can see that we are thinking along the same line's

so to speak. May be you have some Leigh

Cheer's Pup

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » October 21st, 2009, 7:42 pm

ok after my net just screwed up on me i will get straight into it as i had a quite indepth post.

pup, thanks for the clarification on that, i wasnt quite sure with it all

appreciate it!

the trees stymie put up, i like most of them, there are a couple that distract me more so then the rest though. as for tree the second from the bottom.
although i like it i find it a bit distracting that there is foliage in the middle of the tree. i would find it much more balenced and aesthetically appealing if these were removed. i think they are unnecessary. the tree 5 from the top i find quite dull, it is a boring trunk for bunjingi, and the foliage looks like it has been stuck on some how like a tupee

dont get me wrong as it is easier for me to talk bout the ones i dont like then the ones i do as i would go on for ages.

regards jamie

EdwardH · Post by **EdwardH** » October 21st, 2009, 7:50 pm

Thanks for the pics Pup. They are beautiful and thought provoking. Certainly they open my eyes to how the style has developed over time, from sparse to relatively heavy leaf cover. It is hard to chose a stand out best of style so I will take all except 12 & 13 - but only because they have already been spoken for

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