THE PINE PROJECT

[MJL]

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[Daluke]

Is it to early to pot up pines?

[KIRKY]

Not too early at all I usually have mine all done by end July.
Cheers
Kirky

[Daluke]

These projects have got great girth.

You pumping with nitro Ryceman?

[Ryceman3]

These projects have got great girth.

You pumping with nitro Ryceman?

Mmmm ... no huge amounts of nitro, but yes I definitely fertilise and casually coax the in-laws to keep an eye on them if I think it's warranted, but once they established themselves in the ground ... just let them do their thing.
In relation to repotting (as Kirky mentioned), I don't have any issues repotting pines throughout July. Where I am in Melbourne doesn't suffer frosts or temps lower than about 3-4deg at worst, and I know the roots are beginning to move for spring, I've seen it. Most of mine are pretty young though, even still I don't think I'd be concerned. I'm glad I dug them when I did, they were a lot further than 5kms from my house and who knows when I'll be allowed to drive down there again.

[Ryceman3]

Time to repot the pines that have been growing in pots.
I started with the JBP. They may not have the girth of the bigger ground grown trees but I still think they have progressed well, and maybe in the end the slow and steady approach may produce a better result, I'm happy with the way the roots are developing. This is a fun project.
... it's going to take a bit to get through them all, but here are the first 6 ...

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JBP-RP AB_2.jpg

JBP-RP AB_3.jpg

JBP-RP AB_4.jpg

[Pearcy001]

What mix were you using for your pines R3? Do they all have that much mycorrhizae?

Cheers,
Pearcy.

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[Ryceman3]

I just remembered after I posted the pines above I neglected to put up any shots of digging the ground grown pines as I had promised.
So ... in case anybody was wanting to check them out - here they are.

PD AB_1.jpg

PD AB_2.jpg

PD AB_3.jpg

PD AB_4.jpg

PD AB_5.jpg

[Ryceman3]

What mix were you using for your pines R3? Do they all have that much mycorrhizae?

Hi Pearcy,
In short - no, they don't all have that much mychorrizae but they all have some. Well over half are at what I would describe as "abundant levels". When it gets to the volume as shown in the pic it is actually a pain as it tends to make watering/water penetration a bit of an issue.
My mix consists of pumice, scoria, pine bark, zeolite and I also add coir peat. Nothing really revolutionary.

[Rolf]

I just remembered after I posted the pines above I neglected to put up any shots of digging the ground grown pines as I had promised.
So ... in case anybody was wanting to check them out - here they are.

PD AB_1.jpg
PD AB_2.jpg
PD AB_3.jpg
PD AB_4.jpg
PD AB_5.jpg

Hi Ryceman3,
Brings back memories!!!
Cheers
Rolf

[Ryceman3]

Plenty of pine repotting going on, most not worth boring you all with, but I did have a look at the neagari (exposed root) experiment I started almost 2 years ago. I have begun peeling back the plastic at the top and gave it some new soil and a trim of the roots at the bottom.
I did have visions of cutting off the tube and checking it out in it's entirety, but I thought I'd go with the patient/leave it in the hands of the gods route and get a little surprise every time another couple of centimetres gets peeled back. So far, not so bad...

NEAG_JBP AB_4.jpg

NEAG_JBP AB_2.jpg

NEAG_JBP AB_3.jpg

NEAG_JBP AB_1.jpg

[delisea]

I dig up seeds after a few days to see if they are germinating yet. You are a more patient man me. Don't you want to just rip it off and have a look!

I think of JBPs as slow, but looking at this and your field grown trees they actually move along at a good clip. Nice one.
Cheers,
Symon

[Ryceman3]

I dig up seeds after a few days to see if they are germinating yet. You are a more patient man me. Don't you want to just rip it off and have a look!

I think of JBPs as slow, but looking at this and your field grown trees they actually move along at a good clip. Nice one.
Cheers,
Symon

In short… yes, I do want to rip it off and have a look! But I figure I got this far… lucky I have plenty of other stuff to play with while I wait. I know there’s plenty of roots to be uncovered in there, that tube is stuffed full I think, it feels very tight.
As for JBP being “slow”, give them the right conditions and like anything they’ll get busy. They’re fast enough for me, maybe not as vigorous as Chinese Elm or Tridents but definitely moving forward.
Thanks for the response, hope you’re enjoying the progression! I think I’m getting somewhere.

[Ryceman3]

Just to update with a progress report on the root over rock scots pine I assembled 2 years ago ...
It has been left to grow on with some attention when branching needed to be removed at whirls and a bit of wire etc... but nothing very significant.
Today I decided to remove it from it's pot and have a look.

ROR-SCP AB_2.jpg

ROR-SCP AB_3.jpg

ROR-SCP AB_1.jpg

Things are coming along nicely. I tied/compressed a few of the lower roots and then repotted, leaving the top exposed. It'll be fun gradually watching the rest of the rock emerge and beginning the process of refining the top. The branch on the left is sacrifice, I'm planning a small tree from the remainder... although the front may change as I get a better view of how the roots are developing.

[Beech92]

Interested to know if you plan on keeping all those ground grown pines? Some lovely looking specimens there.