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Has anyone tried to throw without a bat? Is there any advantages/disadvantages over throwing with one?
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You can throw without a bat. I find it easier as there is less chance for moving. A bat can make the wheel larger and allows the peice to be removed on the bat without cutting the peice off.
Not sure if there are any other differences?
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what are u talking about?
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Depends on which hand you have the bat in. Id sooner not hold the bat when pitching. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just couldnt help myself.
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Sorry you guys left yourselves wide open for that one.he he he he he :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Petra wrote:Depends on which hand you have the bat in. Id sooner not hold the bat when pitching. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just couldnt help myself.

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Sorry guys. We were talking about making bonsai pots. What else do you reckon???
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kvan64 wrote:Has anyone tried to throw without a bat? Is there any advantages/disadvantages over throwing with one?
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I find if you throw with a bat in your hand, then you are just as like to hit yourself with it :-)
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I reckon that I already hit myself with it lol.
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kvan,

I always use a bat when I am working on the wheel.

The major advantage to using a bat is that it makes getting your work off the wheel head a lot easier. You don't have to handle the wet piece directly so there are fewer mishaps. Another advantage is that you can continue using the wheel to make additional pots while the other pieces firm up. I don't immediately cut my work from the bats. This allows me to return them to the wheel head after they have firmed up to refine the details and make minor adjustments to the forms.

There are a few disadvantages, one is that they are an additional expense. Another is that the round bats take up extra space on the storage shelves. Another is that the alignment holes will wear and wallow out over time which allows the bat to move when you are trying to throw. In addition, the bats can warp if they are mishandled.

Nonetheless, for the work that I do, I find them an indispensable tool.

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Post by Ash »

Look guys- with christmas home cricket season on the rise I thought it was time to clarify things just in case you make a fool of yourself at a family BBQ come christmas ;) . Guy number one is throwing and is at one end of the cricket pitch and guy number two has the bat and he stands at the other end of the pitch and tries to hit whatever guy number one throws at him so that it doesn't hit his wickets...or worse...his stubby! Not sure what wheels have to do with it but you can try the bat and throwing thing at the same time, but honestly, I don't think it will catch on- too likely to hit your own wickets. HOWZZAAATTT!!! :lol:
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