black pine styling ideas

[Michael]

hi guys

here is a black pine ready for styling my father in laws tree new to bonsai and eagerley awaiting ur veiws/ideas/virts would be great

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any help greatley appreciated



cherrs mick

[Jamie]

nice stock to work with mate

it looks like there is a good chance for a jin at the top of the trunk and shari all the way down. i would also be wiring the tree out completly before bending anything around, then you can get your branch placement right.

any chance we can get some bigger pics and a maybe a shot from underneath to see the structure?


jamie

[Michael]

gday jamie


how are u mate i posted pics after resizing to 300px x 180px wondering why, myself cant veiw larger when opening some suggestions mate



mick

[Jamie]

try resizing to 540x720 i think it is, you should have a prob getting them up with that size, that is what i usually use as a guide for size

which program do you use for resizing? 300x180 is the max size for avatars but not posts


jamie

[Michael]

hope these help for now will post more tommorow

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something to play with for know



cheers mick

[Jamie]

thats better mate

i can now do a mud map and rough virt



jamie

[Michael]

thanks mate



he loves the site new member coming up soon hehe
virt is what he is excited about one day when have more time may get u to teach me how to compose one



cheers bud

[Jamie]

no prob about the virts

as for ideas, i think this tree shows some problematic areas. ie that straight section on the main trunk line. hopefully that can be bent but if not i have allowed for foliage to cover it, the virt is rather scrappy, but it gives ya an idea.
the other problmeatic thing is the angle, i think you could probably repot this tree slanted to the left more bring the main trunk line upright which will give you more styling options, the virt i have done is for how it is potted now, i will probably come up with one at the angle i am talking about

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mudmap, this is where i would be trying to get the trunk and branches at, if you decide to repot at a different angle, this virt is practically useless. but all good.

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rough idea. jin and shari right down the lower section of the main trunk. this will help with that reverse taper and also fix that stub up, so a nice bit of carving for ya

can ya give us some dimensions of the tree? height? trunk width? etc?


cheers


jamie

[Michael]

anyone else have thoughts ideas



mick

[Michael]

gday to all


some more info to help with styling ideas and some more info for u jamie as requested to play with

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main trunk 30mm wide pretty much all the way up
height from top of pot 400mm being top of growth
length of foliated branch from trunk to most outer growth 400mm going to the left so to speak
foliated branch 15mm wide at junction from main branch
height from base of tree to branch staging away 140mm

hope this helps


eagerly awaiting all ur thoughts go to town jamie and all other virt helpers



regards michael

[Jamie]

here ya go mick

turned the tree to the left a bit, this styling will be peice of cake to accomplish successfully.

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i think this way would be a better way to go than the previous virt, the tree is very static the way it is, turned anti clockwise, and a complete wire out which is very do-able as well you could get something very close to the virt, that main branch has a little thickness to is, so if you are gonna bend it be sure to use raffia or vet wrap, vet wrap preferrably


jamie