Buying first tools

[Jonesy]

Sorry, last line should read: It also surprises me etc....
Jonesy

[Regan]

Dayne

are you saying to get normal branch cutters aswell as the concave branch cutters

[Jamie]

i wouldnt be doing that mate, thats just doubling up for no reason costing you more.

i think dayne may have missed that you put them on your list.

[Bretts]

What are those concave branch cutters like

[Jamie]

What are those concave branch cutters like

good, they give a nice cut and make it easy for the bark to heal over it, less clean up too.

jamie

[Sime76]

What are those concave branch cutters like

good, they give a nice cut and make it easy for the bark to heal over it, less clean up too.

jamie

Would you say they could take the place of knob cutters?

[Jamie]

possibly, the knob cutters are designed for the reason of cleaning up ugly cuts and to give the wound a concave impression so it will heal nicely.

i had a picture of the profile the cuts will make, i cant find it now i will have get another one.

a knob cutter will give a spherical shaped cut, giving the wound a concave which will heal nicely, a concave branch cutter will give a different cut by being more of a straight line but also slightly concave taken the need out for a knob cutter. the good thing bout knob cutters is for the wounds that are larger like a saw cut they can get in and create a concave wound.

jamie

[dayne]

yeah i missed that i would go standard branch cutters and standard spherical knob cutters

[Regan]

Dayne

I don't know if the budget can cover both, unless I start giving some big hints about what I want for my birthday, if these take about 2 months to get here then they should turn up around the same time.

Cheers Regan

[Jamie]

if you dont have the money for both regan go with the concave branch cutters it will do the job for you until you can get knob cutters, they have done me for 5 years, i havent had a knob cutter in that time, i am thinking bout adding one to my collection with this deal though.


jamie

[Bougy Fan]

I agree with Jamie, Regan - leave the knob cutter for later. I have one and maybe use it once a month, whereas I use my concave branch cutters every day. I notice Leigh has both straight and spherical knob cutters - you want the sphericial ones the cut a radius both ways. They are also the most expensive Perhaps it's an option to get a chinese pair at the moment ?

[Mitchell]

The difference, as I understand it, is in the metal. Chinese steel (at least in the manufacture of these tools) is inferior to Japanese steel. It is softer and doesn't hold its sharpness as well. The tools themselves are almost identical. If the Chinese upped their quality control they would be a better product. It also me that the Chinese don't seem to sell by brand, all their products are generic, so it's impossible to tell one from the other

Regards
Jonesy

Your right to a certain degree, though the Chinese want to make more, of a lesser quality and cheaper. Japanese generally understand make it better, sell it for more and generate a respect level with your buyers. Just two different ways of making money, only one earns respect though.

The Chinese can and do make items in the market of equal quality to the Japanese. A perfect example is Makita power tools. MakJap tools have always been good, their is no doubting that. MaKJap have recently (a few years ago) contracted Chinese manufacturers to build units for them. The units use inferior parts and thus have been put on the market at a lower price point, some are green not blue, some are blue with "Made in China" on them.

If you took the "Made in China" off them, you would be hard pressed knowing the difference. Why? Because they still use the MakJap quality control in China, insuring they don't spit out heaps of defects as is the usual rule of thumb.

[Sime76]

Could someone tell me what the difference is between these 2 wire cutters, in terms of how they work and what they can do?


http://web.me.com/ledanta/Tools/Nobuich ... ers.html#1

http://web.me.com/ledanta/Tools/Nobuich ... ers.html#4

Thanks

[dayne]

sime76 the main difference is size the last ones are really small and narrow great for removing wire right up in hard to get places they allso have a special metal tip and i think their a bypass cut where as the first pair are a more bolt cutter type standard wire cutter both have their place if you have big jobs go the big if you have mainly shohin and suchh get the little ones

[Jamie]

possibly both bolt cutter style.

i beleive the ones with scissor like handles are more for getting in to the hard to get places on a highly ramified tree and cut the wire off. the ones with plier like handles are the standard type you see more often.


jamie