Manna Gum / Lemon scented gum

[anttal63]

NOV. 2008

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Shortly after this repot the main trunk died off. Why??? I think too much sun to soon, not enough water ( wasn't into my flooding technique yet) and leaving the foliage on.


NOV. 2009

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MAR. 2010

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I think i get this tree now. it only took 5 years

I will eventually carve a hollow in it to marry the trunk.

[craigw60]

Hi Ant still roughing up the natives. How many trees have you got out there ?
Craig

[anttal63]

Hi Ant still roughing up the natives. How many trees have you got out there ?
Craig

Makem/Breakm the choice is theirs

500++++++ i reckon we should put some of them in the ground up at your place if ya got the room??? im happy to workm and do some kind a deal with ya if ya like.

[craigw60]

Hi Ant I reckon we cold work something in the winter when I lift the deciduous trees. Alternatively I could make some more raised beds. I have a bit of space here but not unlimited. I am pretty wedded to my garden as well.
Craig

[anttal63]

Only if you can and would like to pool it together. I would contribute in every way needed and more! If not, all good mate, I still got trees i could give you. Each knows their own. Check it out, food for thought. We'd do some killa tree's together!

[AndrewM]

Hi Ant

I am curious about you're flooding technique. Do you have a thread or anything written about it.

Cheers Andrew

[anttal63]

Hi Ant

I am curious about you're flooding technique. Do you have a thread or anything written about it.

Cheers Andrew

Hi Andrew, yes there is somewhere, i will find it when i get a chance or just write it again for you. thanks for your interest.

[AndrewM]

Cheers Ant
I look forward to reading it


Andrew

[Joel]

Hi Ant

I am curious about you're flooding technique. Do you have a thread or anything written about it.

Cheers Andrew

Hi Andrew,

I believe Dennis Mc came up with this technique. He is on this forum somewhere. He has done a lot of work with Eucalyptus/Corymbia/Angophora.

Joel

[AndrewM]

Hi Joel

Thanks for the heads up on the origin of the info.

If Ant can find or write what he know and has done that would be great

[Bretts]

Hi Ant

I am curious about you're flooding technique. Do you have a thread or anything written about it.

Cheers Andrew

Hi Andrew,

I believe Dennis Mc came up with this technique. He is on this forum somewhere. He has done a lot of work with Eucalyptus/Corymbia/Angophora.

Joel

That's interesting Joel although I knew it was not Antonio's technique I did not know Dennis came up with it. Makes sense as he was the first one I heard mention that we need not sit our natives in water. I never liked that theory maybe it was after I found that Willow rather extra water instead of just siting in it. I have never sat any of my trees in water.

Nice work though Antonio. I was expecting my last gum repotting to start kicking as it held strong after repotting but it has not kicked into gear yet several weeks later. Maybe it needs more water I think pre care might have been the missing ingredient

[anttal63]

Firstly let me say gentlemen that i came up with this idea for myself. i had not heard of or read of it before hand. To me it was a logical process of things i had read and heard with natives. The coming of life on the flood plains and watching the natives i grew up around after heavy rains. Oxygen in the after care can only be passed through the roots one way that i know of. But like all good ideas, when you are having one so are many others, having, have had and will have, that is just the way the universe works i believe. My technique will vary according to the time of the year and temperture's day and night that are going on. November and December potting for natives this past season. I would start by pruning back in October.As the growth was charging by november i would start by soaking the tree i was going to repot for hours, sometimes even over night. After the repot i would soak again for 15 to 20 mins. then into my post trauma area total shade till about 6pm. and watered well 2 to 3 times day. As new growth began to push i would introduce them to more sun. at this point you need to get them in full sun sooner rather than later, feed and water aggressively. to long in shade has almost tipped things over for me. Ps Ideas are for people to have and not to be owned by anyone.

[Bretts]

There are many people that believe they have written thier own tune only to find it is a tune they already heard Soaking natives has been around for a long time Antonio this is only a slight variation that as you say is only logical progression with what we are all learning. I would not be suprised if Dennis was the first to use this with natives as he is a very experienced native grower that never sat his trees in water but just gave them what they needed which we know is lots of water.
I recently discussed how this technique was used to revive a Pine with damaged roots in a out of print Bonsai today so how can you lay claim to inventing it?

[anttal63]

There are many people that believe they have written thier own tune only to find it is a tune they already heard Soaking natives has been around for a long time Antonio this is only a slight variation that as you say is only logical progression with what we are all learning. I would not be suprised if Dennis was the first as he is a very experienced native grower that never sat his trees in water but just gave them what they needed which we know is lots of water.

Then great minds think alike, i cant wait to meet him. Obviously a man who uses his noodle.

[Bretts]

Sorry Antonio I edited to include that this technique has been used long before we started Bonsai to revive sick trees which I have stated to you before.