Cheap but Nasty

[senseijames]

G'day all, well they say you only get what you pay for, on a previous post about carving tools, I stated that I was going to buy a rotary carving tool, after checking them all out for a fair while, I decided to get an Ozito and on Sunday I bought one from you know where, actually got some great service from the salesman, BUT, Today I decided to give the thing a try, the Collett chuck won't hold the bits they just spin in the chuck when you put pressure on it, and if you try to tighten the chuck more it keeps slipping past the Chuck Lock, so I decided to try it with the Flexdrive, good for 3 minutes, same thing happened again at the Flexdrive chuck end, Looks like Dremel is going to get another sale, Just off hand does anyone have a Ryobi Rotary Tool kit, if anyone has is it a good tool or not ??
James

[kvan64]

Did you use the key to tighten it or did you handtighten it?

[Handy Mick]

Hi James,
I got a rotary, go's well enough for small to medium stuff, any hardwood feels like it needs more watts.
Mick

[Mitchell]

My Ozito did the same thing from day 1. I was still able to tighten it, but I can't remember how... I think the key still grabbed it if held at a certain angle. I just held it at that angle whilst tightening.

[Dumper]

had a dremel. but it's broken. no idea y. just decided not to work.
so instead of spending a lot of money. i went out to and bought ozito. to be honest. i dont see any different between dremel and ozito.both works great for me.

"the Collett chuck won't hold the bits they just spin in the chuck when you put pressure on it, " - sensei james

i dont use the key thing that comes with it. i just use a small plier to tighten the collett.

[Makkanan]

Regarding the spinning of the drill bits, I had a tool which didn't hold the bits too well after years of use....however, four layers of masking tape (NOT the transparent sticky tape and not gaffer tape) applied carefully and uniformly around the bit does the trick... it maintains its centre spin axis without a problem even at high RPMs. Anyway, worth a go with the only cost being 3cents worth of tape. Try it first at low RPMs and don't forget your protective eyewear, folks.

[Amanda]

Sounds like the device has a manufacture fault, return it to the store and trial a replacement.

[Jamie]

gday james,

as you know i have an ozito aswell and havent ever had a prob with it, the flexi shaft i had was quite worn so i got another one, but other than that it runs well at fast and slow rpm and i havent had the chuck slip on me before.

like anja said take it back get the replacement then if it happens with that one take it back, demand a better quality one for the same price for "customer" satisfaction. you shouldnt have a prob with the workers there if you put that at them.

Jamie

edit- took word crap out.

[Mojo Moyogi]

gday james,

as you know i have an ozito aswell and havent ever had a prob with it, the flexi shaft i had was quite crap so i got another one, but other than that it runs well at fast and slow rpm and i havent had the chuck slip on me before.

like anja said take it back get the replacement then if it happens with that one take it back, demand a better quality one for the same price for "customer" satisfaction. you shouldnt have a prob with the workers there if you put that at them.

Jamie

That Ozito is on it's 3 owner too Jamie and has done a lot of work.

Cheers,
Mojo

[Jamie]

i was wondering that aswell mojo cheers for clearing that up

the thing i did miss out of the previous, the switch was a little worn out so i replaced it with a switch dad had lying around in his workshop. but yea it still powering on mate very muchly appreciated!

obviously being the 3rd owner of the rotary tool the flex shaft would be rather worn!

Jamie

[Taffy]

had a dremel. but it's broken. no idea y. just decided not to work.

Dumper, is the motor still running - but the chuck (collet) - isn't on your Dremel? I have a Dremel that I got back in the early 90's and sometime last year it decided it didn't want to work. The motor was spinning fine, but no drive. I pulled it apart and found the drive from the armature to the chuck/collet was just a piece of clear poly tubing. It had dried out and broken up. I delved into my toolbox and found the right size tubing . I cut a piece off, slid it onto the two ends and it's now going great guns again. Got the tubing from Bunnings - use it for covering wire when necessary.

I guess it's a pretty good idea to have a 'flexi-drive'. Means you can't really overload the machine - the tubing will let go first. Don't know if the newer ones have that sort of connector though - as I said, I got mine way back int the early 90's.

[senseijames]

Did you use the key to tighten it or did you handtighten it?

The key in both cases, and it still didn't grip
Will still get back to you about the Pot Molds soon, havent forgotten.
James

[techpetal]

I completely agree with you title and first post james.

You definately only get what you pay for when it comes to tools, both hand and power.

I spent years buying the low to mid range tools and put up with breakdowns, heavy weight and poor tolerances.

Now, buy top end tools and you have the ability to create better results. They last, are reliable and give good results in the right hands. even if you have to wait and save the few extra bucks, it's worth every cent.

I know the old saying "a poor craftsman blames his tools" but, the right and quality tool for the job is the right way to do it.

My dremmels work fine, seen a ryobi die grinder and it ripped into to some serious carving. When I need a monster tool I'll buy the Makita die grinder.

Tech

[Dumper]

Dumper, is the motor still running - but the chuck (collet) - isn't on your Dremel? I have a Dremel that I got back in the early 90's and sometime last year it decided it didn't want to work. The motor was spinning fine, but no drive. I pulled it apart and found the drive from the armature to the chuck/collet was just a piece of clear poly tubing. It had dried out and broken up. I delved into my toolbox and found the right size tubing . I cut a piece off, slid it onto the two ends and it's now going great guns again. Got the tubing from Bunnings - use it for covering wire when necessary.

mine just dont boot. i open it. re-solder all wires. changed motor contact.
just dont want to work. was thinking that it might be the board.

john

[rudy]

Dremels and the like have varying sizes collets that can be purchased which can accomadate smaller diameter bits and hold them as they should.
Rudy