Signs of Life

Forum for discussion of Deciduous bonsai – Maples, Crabapple, Hornbeam, Elm species etc.
banksia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 280
Joined: November 16th, 2008, 8:37 pm
Favorite Species: Melaleucas, Callistemons, Bougies
Bonsai Age: 14
Location: Perth

Signs of Life

Post by banksia »

Well, it appears that a couple of my deciduous trees have decided it's time to awaken. The first, an English Oak I've had for a little over 7 yrs (grown from seed/acorn)..... and the other, a Pomegranate, I've had for 5yrs.
The Pom. was in very poor health and I immediately put it in a grow box to regain it's vigour. After 2yrs. I repotted it into a mica pot and it went great guns.
Last year come Springtime, it developed a really nasty case of leaf-curl of some sort. All growth was distorted/affected and consequently a poor flowering/fruiting season followed.
This year I've repotted, and pruned a little and treated with lime sulphur. Now the first buds are now bursting. Is it alright to keep treating this....as previously at this stage the leaves appeared affected....and this year they don't.

Cheers!
Anthony ;)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
dregs24
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 75
Joined: September 25th, 2009, 7:20 pm
Favorite Species: ELM
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: MELB

Re: Signs of Life

Post by dregs24 »

great looking trees, congatulations :D
User avatar
Amanda
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 586
Joined: April 10th, 2010, 2:57 pm
Favorite Species: [color=#008040]Ficus & Natives[/color]
Bonsai Age: 0
Bonsai Club: [color=#FF00BF]AUSBONSAI.COM[/color] [color=#00BF00]۩[/color]

Re: Signs of Life

Post by Amanda »

Delightful. Congratulations :D
Failure and disappointment is part of the learning process. ~ Paul (pjkatich)
User avatar
kcpoole
Perpetual Learner
Perpetual Learner
Posts: 12292
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 4:02 pm
Favorite Species: Maple
Bonsai Age: 15
Bonsai Club: the School Of Bonsai
Location: Western Sydney, NSW, Australia
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 96 times
Contact:

Re: Signs of Life

Post by kcpoole »

If they are not showing signs of being sick then I would not

Nice Buds :-)

My Oaks are starting to show life now too :-)
Ken
Check out our Wiki for awesome bonsai information www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki
What is Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Bonsai
What should I do now? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Newbie
How do I grow a Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _a_Bonsai?
Visit a Bonsai nursery to see some real nice trees http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _Nurseries
User avatar
kvan64
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1627
Joined: September 10th, 2009, 9:46 pm
Favorite Species: black pine
Bonsai Age: 16
Location: brisbane
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Signs of Life

Post by kvan64 »

Hi Anthony. Very nice new growth's colour. My English Oak is shooting out too but the colour is no where near as nice.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Always we hope someone else has the answer.
Bonsai is an art of shrinking.
banksia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 280
Joined: November 16th, 2008, 8:37 pm
Favorite Species: Melaleucas, Callistemons, Bougies
Bonsai Age: 14
Location: Perth

Re: Signs of Life

Post by banksia »

Thanks for the comments people. Ken. I'll stop the treatment for the meantime...let's hope it dosen't rear it's ugly head again. If it does I'll just have to try something different and hope for the best.
kvan64. I always have had this deep maroon coloured new growth...and it hangs around for some time. This year it's a little more intense than usual. Our winter this year was particularly dry with temps consistently between 3-8 degrees in the evenings. I think this is the reason for the deep, vivid colour I'm seeing now. However, I think your stock is alot nicer and offers more than my standard informal upright.

Cheers!
Anthony ;)
User avatar
kvan64
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1627
Joined: September 10th, 2009, 9:46 pm
Favorite Species: black pine
Bonsai Age: 16
Location: brisbane
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Signs of Life

Post by kvan64 »

Thanks for saying highly about my tree. Apart for being big (used to be over 3m tall), it has a lot to improve (maybe some carving). I love the deep colour of your trees' new growth and would swap mine with your informal upright tree anytime :)
Always we hope someone else has the answer.
Bonsai is an art of shrinking.
User avatar
Bretts
Bonsai Philosopher
Bonsai Philosopher
Posts: 6671
Joined: November 14th, 2008, 11:04 pm
Favorite Species: carpinus jbp
Bonsai Age: 12
Location: Jervis Bay NSW
Has thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Signs of Life

Post by Bretts »

Hey Banksia
That is a really nice Pom. I as some others experienced leaf curl distortion last year on various species. Even Street trees in my area where affected. Amur maple is first out as usual this year and all is looking good so far fingers crossed.
I also treated with lime sulfur during Winter at about 20-1 on the deciduous. I have seen this in my yard in previous years but it never caused the trouble it did last year. It will be interesting to see how the yard trees go this year as they have received no special treatment yet. Last year was reported as very bad for fungus and bugs in general with the seasonal changes.
We found a product called bravo worked well but it is not easy to get and is pretty toxic. I planned to give the better trees a preventative dose as they leafed out but am also considering the copper fungicides like Kocide Blue Extra.
I can't find much info about using these on broadleaf trees but it has been ok on privets so far.
Not sure Lime sulfur is a good idea to keep using now it is back in leaf but maybe it is ok at a weak solution.
I think if we where experts we would continue some preventative treatment after last year but I am no expert so I will leave that chioce upto you :)
Good luck!

Oh Yates Anti rot might be worth a try it is very safe and systemic. Don't think this can do any harm so might be the go for just a little insurance! I have been told you can not over do it with this stuff. Cheap too. Apparently you could bath in the stuff to no ill affect. Glad you reminded me :)
Last edited by Bretts on August 18th, 2010, 1:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
It's too bad your in such a hurry cause the stories I could tell you, Bushels and baskets of stories, hole crates full of stories. But if you can spare a moment I will tell you one story.
banksia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 280
Joined: November 16th, 2008, 8:37 pm
Favorite Species: Melaleucas, Callistemons, Bougies
Bonsai Age: 14
Location: Perth

Re: Signs of Life

Post by banksia »

Thanks for the nice words Bretts. Sorry to hear you had similar problems with some of your trees...let's hope this year is different. I'll post a thread on the Pom. in the coming weeks, as I have a few things to ask regarding the way it's going.
On a side note (which I think everyone should know and might've overlooked). The other week I was treating some deadwood on some Bougies with "Earls Wood Hardener" and noticed at the very bottom of the label a warning....."Do not use on surfaces previously treated with Sulphur or Borates". Anyone know the reason for this?? and have I done any irrepairable damage by doing so??

Cheers!
Anthony ;)
banksia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 280
Joined: November 16th, 2008, 8:37 pm
Favorite Species: Melaleucas, Callistemons, Bougies
Bonsai Age: 14
Location: Perth

Re: Signs of Life

Post by banksia »

Well, it's been nearly a month now since I posted the last photos and I'm afraid it seems to be a case of deja vu. The Poms oldest new growth (if that makes sense) appears to have a slight twist to it. I'm not too keen on anything toxic, but have decided it maybe the only way to go. Does anyone have any experience/advice with this particular problem??.
Oh yeah!...I seem to have a slight problem with leaf size on my Oak aswell :roll: :lol: any thoughts?

Cheers!
Anthony ;)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Jamie
Bonsai passionardo
Bonsai passionardo
Posts: 6829
Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
Been thanked: 2 times
Contact:

Re: Signs of Life

Post by Jamie »

loving that pomegranate matey! that is very nice :D
SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
:twisted: taking the top half of trees of since 2005! :twisted:
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans :D
User avatar
kcpoole
Perpetual Learner
Perpetual Learner
Posts: 12292
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 4:02 pm
Favorite Species: Maple
Bonsai Age: 15
Bonsai Club: the School Of Bonsai
Location: Western Sydney, NSW, Australia
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 96 times
Contact:

Re: Signs of Life

Post by kcpoole »

Jeez! what the heck are you feeding those oaks?

Never seen a leaf that big on one before :-)
Check out our Wiki for awesome bonsai information www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki
What is Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Bonsai
What should I do now? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index.php?title=Newbie
How do I grow a Bonsai? http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _a_Bonsai?
Visit a Bonsai nursery to see some real nice trees http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... _Nurseries
User avatar
Amanda
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 586
Joined: April 10th, 2010, 2:57 pm
Favorite Species: [color=#008040]Ficus & Natives[/color]
Bonsai Age: 0
Bonsai Club: [color=#FF00BF]AUSBONSAI.COM[/color] [color=#00BF00]۩[/color]

Re: Signs of Life

Post by Amanda »

Very nice. Mine have all burst this past week, my Chinese L.A crazily. Must take photos...
Failure and disappointment is part of the learning process. ~ Paul (pjkatich)
Andrew E
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 194
Joined: June 24th, 2010, 8:21 pm
Favorite Species: Pine
Bonsai Age: 24
Bonsai Club: Central Coast Bonsai Club, South Lakes Bonsai Club
Location: Central Coast NSW
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Signs of Life

Post by Andrew E »

Hi Banksia,
I had the same issue with my English oak, super big leaves! I ended up using a fertiliser lower in Nitogen and cut back my watering a bit. Still enough water to maintain the health and vigour of the tree but not too much. A liquidamber of mine gets the same treatment so as to keep the leaves small. Make sure the tree is getting enough sunlight as this can also cause large leaves. The tree will produce the larger leaves to catch as much of the sunlight as possible. If you do put it in a sunnier position alter your watering to accomodate.
Hope this helps
Andrew
banksia
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 280
Joined: November 16th, 2008, 8:37 pm
Favorite Species: Melaleucas, Callistemons, Bougies
Bonsai Age: 14
Location: Perth

Re: Signs of Life

Post by banksia »

Thanks for the suggestion Andrew. At the moment (and all the time of had it - 8 yrs), I've feed it fortnightly with Powerfeed. In the past it's had considerably smaller leaves, but every now and then I get this!. I've recently moved into a new house so position and aspect has changed somewhat, but if anything, the amount of sunlight it receives has increased.

Cheers!
Anthony ;)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Post Reply

Return to “Deciduous”