A Pretty Mess.
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A Pretty Mess.
great colours dont you think?.. pitty about the random branch structure underneath.
any advice on when and how much i should prune the top?
thanks
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
hi mate 
what species is this??
i think this one has a interesting trunk, ut is way over potted for the size of the tree, i am interested to know the species as it will greatly help with advice
jamie

what species is this??
i think this one has a interesting trunk, ut is way over potted for the size of the tree, i am interested to know the species as it will greatly help with advice

jamie

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Re: A Pretty Mess.
hey jamie, by over potted do you mean the pot is too small??Jamie wrote:hi mate
what species is this??
i think this one has a interesting trunk, ut is way over potted for the size of the tree, i am interested to know the species as it will greatly help with advice
jamie

I dont know the species name for this one but its nursery tag reads- Callistemon - 'Great Balls of Fire'.
Id like to know the species aswell. can anyone help?
Cheers
NS
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
Hi NS,NaturalSelection wrote:
I dont know the species name for this one but its nursery tag reads- Callistemon - 'Great Balls of Fire'.
Id like to know the species aswell. can anyone help?
Cheers
NS
Great Balls of Fire is a cultivar of Callistemon salignus.
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
NS, the general rule of thumb when you remove roots is that you remove approximately the same amount of foliage. Reason being that with the removal of roots, the remaining ones won't be able to support and feed a full crown, so some may die back - and quite often it is on branches that you really need.
Nice looking tree and foliage by the way.
Over-potting means the pot is too large for the tree. Personally, I don't see it as being over-potted. I think it looks pretty good in this one - especially considering you say you've removed 50% of the root ball and there are still roots showing above the soil level. I reckon that to put it in a smaller pot, you're going to have to remove more roots to achieve it - and I think that might seriously jeopardize the life of the tree. I also like the colour of your pot balanced again the colour of the foliage.
If it were mine, I'd leave it in this pot - but definitely prune the foliage back. It may look unbalanced with the removal of some foliage, but it'll start to look good again as new roots and foliage grow.
Nice looking tree and foliage by the way.
Over-potting means the pot is too large for the tree. Personally, I don't see it as being over-potted. I think it looks pretty good in this one - especially considering you say you've removed 50% of the root ball and there are still roots showing above the soil level. I reckon that to put it in a smaller pot, you're going to have to remove more roots to achieve it - and I think that might seriously jeopardize the life of the tree. I also like the colour of your pot balanced again the colour of the foliage.
If it were mine, I'd leave it in this pot - but definitely prune the foliage back. It may look unbalanced with the removal of some foliage, but it'll start to look good again as new roots and foliage grow.
Regards
Taffy.
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
hi mate 
its a nice variety thats for sure! I do like the fresh colour of the leaves, now when I mean over potted i am saying that the pot is so big fr the tree and trunk size, what would have to be done to bring it into scale with the trunk is to take it right back and rebuild the tree, keeping it in this pot while you rebuild it there shouldnt be a problem. then once the tree is brought back into scale a smaller pot can be used to complete the image
jamie

its a nice variety thats for sure! I do like the fresh colour of the leaves, now when I mean over potted i am saying that the pot is so big fr the tree and trunk size, what would have to be done to bring it into scale with the trunk is to take it right back and rebuild the tree, keeping it in this pot while you rebuild it there shouldnt be a problem. then once the tree is brought back into scale a smaller pot can be used to complete the image

jamie

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Re: A Pretty Mess.
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Hi NS,
Great Balls of Fire is a cultivar of Callistemon salignus.
Joel[/quote]
thanks Joel
i have read about removing aprox equal foliage and roots to balance out the growth!. i think ill be re studying my books because i almost forgot!
Oh well. thats why i asked here
this is only my second repot this growth season and actually only my second >Growth Season< ! (i hope they keep getting better like this!, watching everything start to really power again is pretty exciting)
also Yes i too agree that removing anymore roots would have been pushing it.... (i actually thought this pot might have been a bit small for this stage.) But i still have much to learn!
i will be pruning it tomorrow morning! thanks again for the info and compliments!
Cheers
NS
quote="Jamie"]hi mate
its a nice variety thats for sure! I do like the fresh colour of the leaves, now when I mean over potted i am saying that the pot is so big fr the tree and trunk size, what would have to be done to bring it into scale with the trunk is to take it right back and rebuild the tree, keeping it in this pot while you rebuild it there shouldnt be a problem. then once the tree is brought back into scale a smaller pot can be used to complete the image
jamie
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Cheers jamie
im not sure i will cut it right back tomorrow (just equal to the roots i took off) but i understand what your saying, and in the next couple weeks it will be getting rebuilt. cheers for the info and help mate
NS
Hi NS,
Great Balls of Fire is a cultivar of Callistemon salignus.
Joel[/quote]
thanks Joel

thanks TaffyTman wrote:NS, the general rule of thumb when you remove roots is that you remove approximately the same amount of foliage. Reason being that with the removal of roots, the remaining ones won't be able to support and feed a full crown, so some may die back - and quite often it is on branches that you really need.
Nice looking tree and foliage by the way.
Over-potting means the pot is too large for the tree. Personally, I don't see it as being over-potted. I think it looks pretty good in this one - especially considering you say you've removed 50% of the root ball and there are still roots showing above the soil level. I reckon that to put it in a smaller pot, you're going to have to remove more roots to achieve it - and I think that might seriously jeopardize the life of the tree. I also like the colour of your pot balanced again the colour of the foliage.
If it were mine, I'd leave it in this pot - but definitely prune the foliage back. It may look unbalanced with the removal of some foliage, but it'll start to look good again as new roots and foliage grow.

i have read about removing aprox equal foliage and roots to balance out the growth!. i think ill be re studying my books because i almost forgot!

Oh well. thats why i asked here

this is only my second repot this growth season and actually only my second >Growth Season< ! (i hope they keep getting better like this!, watching everything start to really power again is pretty exciting)

also Yes i too agree that removing anymore roots would have been pushing it.... (i actually thought this pot might have been a bit small for this stage.) But i still have much to learn!
i will be pruning it tomorrow morning! thanks again for the info and compliments!

Cheers
NS
quote="Jamie"]hi mate

its a nice variety thats for sure! I do like the fresh colour of the leaves, now when I mean over potted i am saying that the pot is so big fr the tree and trunk size, what would have to be done to bring it into scale with the trunk is to take it right back and rebuild the tree, keeping it in this pot while you rebuild it there shouldnt be a problem. then once the tree is brought back into scale a smaller pot can be used to complete the image

jamie

Cheers jamie

im not sure i will cut it right back tomorrow (just equal to the roots i took off) but i understand what your saying, and in the next couple weeks it will be getting rebuilt. cheers for the info and help mate

NS
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
If you are not happy with a mess of branches high up, pick the ones that make an interesting line, or that you can bend to an interesting line and cut the rest out. Don't just give it a haircut. It just postpones the evil day.
Nice start to a tree.
Gavin
Nice start to a tree.
Gavin
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
Very nice love the mix of colours.
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Re: A Pretty Mess.
Thanks Gavin and Dan : )
This is the last pic i took of it last night.
(The black pot was a gift. ..to me and the tree=) Its been cut back but i havnt taken pics yet. . . .
chi
NS
This is the last pic i took of it last night.
(The black pot was a gift. ..to me and the tree=) Its been cut back but i havnt taken pics yet. . . .
chi
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